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Re: Danish supermarket chain is setting up "Emergency Stores"

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Post by scotty79 »

throw310822 wrote: post #198
ambicapter wrote: post #35

Wait, so we're now approaching risk levels high enough that's its economically feasible for businesses to prepare for situations where their stores lose power, telecom, and resupply? Are we already preparing for land war across western Europe?

We're nowhere near that, but EU leaders keep hinting that there is a big war coming and we should all be prepared. In fact my impression, as a European, is that if any war is coming is because EU leadership are actively rooting for one and waste no opportunity to stoke the tension. This news is just one of the many examples of this. The Ukraine- Russia war is a regional war that is happening outside our borders- all…

I'm sure it's EU that completely accidentally, first time in 3 years sent more than dozen drones over Poland for the NATO to shoot down.

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Post by mytailorisrich »

scotty79 wrote: post #299
mytailorisrich wrote: post #255

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Actually, those who remember the 90s and, before that, the Cold War see and understand that Europe is much safer now that it was then. The USSR was much stronger relative to Western Europe then. Now Russia is probably at its weakest relative to NATO (it might have been weaker in the early 90s but NATO had also not expanded to its current footprint). Rememeber also that there was a hot war in the middle of Europe (for…

> Now Russia is probably at its weakest relative to NATO That's exactly why there's gonna by full scale war with russia. It's simply the best moment for it and russia showed it can't be left alone.

Are you suggesting that NATO is going to start a war against Russia, the country with the largest nuke stockpile?

That's bonkers on all levels, and more.

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Post by close04 »

chvid wrote: post #294
0dayz wrote: post #256

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Mind sharing those articles?

The Brazil stuff is related to the case againt Trump-ally Bolsonaro. The European cases so far have been related to the Israel-Palestine conflict. The US uses its so-called SDN list which in general prevents the person having a bank account in any western country. It also caused Microsoft to kill off the email account (I believe the full azure services - ie. Active Directory - rendering his work computer useless) of…

The wording is “legally correct” but meant to look like it was an ICC unforced decision. In reality the US sanctioned the ICC chief prosecutor and Microsoft gave the ICC 2 options: either the ICC cuts off their own employee, or Microsoft cuts off the whole ICC. ICC made a choice between these 2 options and all the public statements were then made to not further tarnish Microsoft’s reputation.

To be fair, under US law Microsoft doesn’t have much choice either. Companies operating under US law inherit the untrustworthiness that comes with this.

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Post by walthamstow »

victorbjorklund wrote: post #292
walthamstow wrote: post #271

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But if the time came, would you trust your neighbour to do the right thing? Sweden is a high-trust society based on friends in London and from visits there, especially outside Stockholm. The UK and US are definitely not. I thought I had read that Sweden had made some changes to military service recently, is that not true?

I'm from Sweden, I 100% would not trust my neighbors. Sure, maybe if you live in a tiny tiny village in the countryside, but if that's the case you probably have the same thing if you're living in a tiny tiny village in a in the US too. Like that's more of an effect of living in a very small village, not anything about the country. And regarding the changes to the military, that is still a very small amount of people…

Interesting, thanks. Doesn't Swedish have a word for community responsibility, are you saying that sense is breaking down in modern Sweden, that people no longer feel that responsibility?

Friends in London seem to talk about it as if we don't have it in the UK (I know that's true) but that Sweden does.

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Post by aDyslecticCrow »

extraduder_ire wrote: post #30
nmstoker wrote: post #23

Without power they could use backup sources but without telecoms isn't payment going to be difficult to impossible? (except those who had sufficient cash before the emergency)

You can do offline verification of payment cards, there's just higher fees and lower limits on payments. This is a common way people get their current accounts into debt without authorising an overdraught.

It's used by alot of vending machines or public transport. The bus can be off-grid while still allowing a ticket purchase.

Im not that familiar with the protocol, but i could see there being a special clause to allow larger off-grid payments in emergency situations.

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Post by xquce »

stefs wrote: post #221
xquce wrote: post #169

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You seen to have failed to understand both solutions and changes you mention... the technology stack of our digital post and the change of letter delivery (I don't blame you, many of my fellow Danes don't understand it either). But Eboks is not holding all digital post of all our citizens, it's one of at least 3 services who we can choose from to read our mail from the governmental organizations. It's a freemarket co…

"specialist hellhole" :D

I'll leave the autocorrect as is

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Post by vintermann »

victorbjorklund wrote: post #285
jamesblonde wrote: post #129

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In Sweden, we have Swish, thank God. We don't have Greenland either, so people aren't as worried about 'exogenous shocks'.

On the other hand, Swish is fully owned by a couple of banks together. So they have full control over Swish and also over BankID, which means that they can deny people from access or if they are down then you know we're screwed. So even if it's not relying on one single company it's relying on a few companies that work together. So instead of a monopoly it's a cartel.

And as a practical matter, they make sure everyone has a smartphone firmly managed by either Apple or Google, with the excuse of protecting us from ourselves.

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Post by SomeUserName432 »

chvid wrote: post #141
ksimukka wrote: post #140

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What are your thoughts on Vipps MobilePay?

As far as I know it sits on top of the payment services provided by Nets. But we have had some situations where part of Nets' services breaks down but MobilePay have been able to operate.

Didn't they move over to Adyen a few years ago?

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Post by vintermann »

Symbiote wrote: post #179
ReptileMan wrote: post #162

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>We as a country are exposed to being attacked by Russia. No you are not. First - no one can find you on a map. You are so tiny. Second for a conventional warfare Russia will have to go trough many many countries to get to you, no matter which road they take (also anyone that thinks Russia is a credible threat is smoking something strong - they don't have the capacity to subdue backwater as eastern Ukraine, let alone…

Denmark's kingdom includes Greenland. It's the 12th largest sovereign country.

Well, it's not Russia Greenland is worrying about currently.

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Post by vintermann »

riffraff wrote: post #151
xp84 wrote: post #126

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Yeah, in my humble opinion anyone in Europe that considers wider war breaking out to be farfetched is not paying enough attention. You can be forgiven however if you're a millennial (as I am) or younger, because the long peace has been so long that it seems crazy that Russia might start dropping bombs, say, on Copenhagen or London. "They wouldn't dare attack NATO" we would have said 10 years ago. But today, NATO is a…

All out war shocked the shit out of the 20 somethings in Ukraine too, many fled, and yet Russia has not made significant advances in the following three years. There's no plausible world in which Russia has the strength to take on the rest of Europe, in, say, the next ten years. (Let's assume nukes are out of the question)

Something the fresh european patriots overlook is that the parts of Ukraine Putin managed to hold on to overlap very closely with the areas most hostile to the rehabilitation of Ukrainian nationalism/most positive to Russia (at least to some largely imaginary Russia which defeated the Nazis but wasn't really communist, i.e. Putin's Russia).

If it's that costly to hold onto areas where most people actually like Putin relatively speaking, how much more expensive wouldn't it be to hold onto areas to where people hate him?

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