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Danish supermarket chain is setting up "Emergency Stores"

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Re: Danish supermarket chain is setting up "Emergency Stores"

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Wait, so we're now approaching risk levels high enough that's its economically feasible for businesses to prepare for situations where their stores lose power, telecom, and resupply? Are we already preparing for land war across western Europe?

Yeah, in my humble opinion anyone in Europe that considers wider war breaking out to be farfetched is not paying enough attention. You can be forgiven however if you're a millennial (as I am) or younger, because the long peace has been so long that it seems crazy that Russia might start dropping bombs, say, on Copenhagen or London. "They wouldn't dare attack NATO" we would have said 10 years ago. But today, NATO is a…

All out war shocked the shit out of the 20 somethings in Ukraine too, many fled, and yet Russia has not made significant advances in the following three years.

There's no plausible world in which Russia has the strength to take on the rest of Europe, in, say, the next ten years.

(Let's assume nukes are out of the question)

Re: Danish supermarket chain is setting up "Emergency Stores"

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Asia, Australia or south America?

Technically North America! But people don't tend to think of Mexico that way. It's not trouble free, not by a long shot. I have family connection to here though and I recon Mexico is not very likely to partake in WW3 in any meaningful way, so should be safe from what I worry is coming soon for Europe. For now tho, I'm definitely less safe than my friends and family back in Sweden. In the short term at least. I don't…

How would you feel if ww3 never happens and you moved from Sweden to Mexico for nothing? It seems like a major step down except if you have Mexican relatives

Re: Danish supermarket chain is setting up "Emergency Stores"

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> stock shelf-stable products in these stores and at some point in their shelf life, transfer them out to other stores for actual consumption Back in my days in retail, we were ordered to put resupply as FILO into the shelfs. It makes sense to sell the oldest products first. So why the transfer shuffle?

> FILO Hard to address the consumers' tendency to "reach out in the back", to get longer expiration time products.

Honestly it seems like I am the only one in my local Aldi who does this. I see people picking up fish that is three days older than the one at the back.

Re: Danish supermarket chain is setting up "Emergency Stores"

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What if people could have large residential storage units in their neighborhoods and apartment complexes, where everyone could stock up on their own personal supply as needed?

90% of people won't do it

They will in small countries with high trust and community, near to Russia and currently or formerly having national service.

In fat, lazy, individualist countries like the UK and US? No way.

Re: Danish supermarket chain is setting up "Emergency Stores"

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Just this last week, all the major cargo train lines in northern Sweden suffered big derailments simultaneously, and several dozen roads were made unusable. This was all from a single incident of unusually heavy rain. The country will have badly damaged logistics on the North-South axis for weeks to come, maybe months. https://www.svt.se/nyheter/lokalt/vasternorrland/stora-probl... Preparedness is vital!

Does anyone have an English language post for this story? That sounds like quite a yikes!

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Re: Danish supermarket chain is setting up "Emergency Stores"

#156

Wait, so we're now approaching risk levels high enough that's its economically feasible for businesses to prepare for situations where their stores lose power, telecom, and resupply? Are we already preparing for land war across western Europe?

Better be ready and nothing happens than being sitting duck thinking Europe will be free of wars forever. Governments spend money on much more ridiculous things

These things are the equivalent to people having an emergency backpack with their travel documents a bottle of water and a few dehydrated meals, statistically you will never need it but if anything happens you'll be glad you're not roaming the streets in pyjama, barefoot and without any documents/food

Re: Danish supermarket chain is setting up "Emergency Stores"

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One of our biggest practical vulnerabilities is that our payment and electronic id infrastructure (nets, dankort, mitid) has been sold off to a private company (Mastercard) even though it was at one point a government owned and developed setup.

That's likely a non-issue when actual crisis happens. A voucher app + paper vouchers are doable in under a month if needed.

Re: Danish supermarket chain is setting up "Emergency Stores"

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Or even better we could build cupboards in the aparments and people just keep their personal supply. /s All my shelf stable products have been in my pantry for a few months before I even open them. You can do FILO yourself and have always a nice emergency supply and it can even cheaper because you can buy the stuff on sale most of the time. The problem is that many people just buy day to day and already have a proble…

> Or even better we could build cupboards in the aparments and people just keep their personal supply. Hate having to annotate explanations to obvious things but I guess it wasn't obvious: Stock up for the next few months. (after paying for it) If they don't need/use it, it gets redistributed. (from the local shared storage unit)

I'm sorry but it really wasn't obvious for me. So like an online shop for groceries but they don't deliver it to your home but at this shared storage location?

Doesn't realy change the second part of my answer though. People could already keep some stock at home right now but most just don't. I don't see how such a shared storage would change that.

Also stock up for a few months is what the government is for at least where I live. [0] Personel emergency supplies are only for the time till the government can start distributing their own stocks.

[0]: https://www.bwl.admin.ch/en/we-advise-emergency-supplies

Re: Danish supermarket chain is setting up "Emergency Stores"

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Technically North America! But people don't tend to think of Mexico that way. It's not trouble free, not by a long shot. I have family connection to here though and I recon Mexico is not very likely to partake in WW3 in any meaningful way, so should be safe from what I worry is coming soon for Europe. For now tho, I'm definitely less safe than my friends and family back in Sweden. In the short term at least. I don't…

How would you feel if ww3 never happens and you moved from Sweden to Mexico for nothing? It seems like a major step down except if you have Mexican relatives

I dunno, Mexico is a pretty great place. You could do a lot worse than Mexico. Many people have moved there “temporarily” and then never went back to their native country.

The lifestyle is legit. No one requires you to go to the famously sketchy parts.

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