Apple users are being locked out of their Apple IDs with no explanation • Hacker News Board

Re: Apple users are being locked out of their Apple IDs with no explanation

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Post by radicality » Sat, Apr 27, 2024, 4:14 PM UTC

goodburb wrote: post #55

Couldn't see older photos/videos in the Photo app. Reminder for any iOS user that needs instant iCloud Photos backups (instead of manual monthly), get a Mac Mini, enable the Photos app, disable optimize for storage and keep it on to keep your memories safe. Always check the recently deleted folder on the Mac every month since iCloud by design is a two-way sync and not a backup, unlike most clouds that are one-way upl…

That’s part of the reason I always opt for the highest possible storage on my main MacBook whenever upgrading - to set Optimize=off for Photos and iCloud. Last upgrade was the 8TB M1. And then I connect that to a local NAS Time Machine backup every few days.

Re: Apple users are being locked out of their Apple IDs with no explanation

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Post by grork » Sat, Apr 27, 2024, 4:18 PM UTC

What’s the overlap between people who had their password reset, and people who used/signed up for Beeper iMessage verification?

Re: Apple users are being locked out of their Apple IDs with no explanation

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Post by beeboobaa3 » Sat, Apr 27, 2024, 4:18 PM UTC

quitit wrote: post #70

As a tip: use your AppleID to generate a secondary email that you use for your day to day email, while keeping the login email secret. The problem stems from nefarious groups getting a hold of email addresses and running distributed dictionary attacks. Apple’s response is to prevent all logins (including valid ones) from accounts that are under attack. Unlocking the account involves calling Apple, they’re not going t…

"As a tip: Do something completely unintuitive, annoying and also you had to have started doing this years ago, and maybe apple won't lock you out. Fingers crossed!"

Re: Apple users are being locked out of their Apple IDs with no explanation

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Post by kemayo » Sat, Apr 27, 2024, 4:19 PM UTC

iLoveOncall wrote: post #165

speedylight wrote: post #17

Considering how important an Apple ID is, this is kind of scary to be honest.

How important is it exactly? I have had iPhones for more than a decade, and I never leveraged any "feature" of having an Apple ID on any of them. I've never bought an app or spent money on one, and I don't use iCloud, so the Apple ID for me is literally just a gateway to downloading free apps that I can always redownload with another one.

You understand that you're an outlier here, right?

Re: Apple users are being locked out of their Apple IDs with no explanation

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Post by easeout » Sat, Apr 27, 2024, 4:20 PM UTC

I'm glad this is news, because it means I was probably affected by a mistake and not a specific attack. Nonetheless you can't go spooking your users like this.

Re: Apple users are being locked out of their Apple IDs with no explanation

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Post by beeboobaa3 » Sat, Apr 27, 2024, 4:20 PM UTC

GoofballJones wrote: post #89

cjk2 wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is not exactly true. I can lift and shift to Google or Microsoft or standalone if I want to in a day easily. I just don’t want to! (I have tested this - always have an exit strategy)

Yeah, I never understood this whole "you're locked in, you can't get out of their ecosystem." This has always been BS. I've switched from Apple to PC to Linux back to PC to Apple back to PC and then Android etc etc. It's actually quite simple. At the moment I'm using Apple stuff, but there's nothing holding me here other than just me being here.

Where is the button to copy your photos from apple to google? Until something like that exists normal people are 100% locked in.

They may not even own a laptop with sufficient storage to download all their photos to. If all they have is one, maybe two, phones with limited storage they're totally fucked. Just like Google & Apple designed it.

And it's not like these services make it easy to bulk download/upload your photos, either.

Re: Apple users are being locked out of their Apple IDs with no explanation

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Post by FdbkHb » Sat, Apr 27, 2024, 4:21 PM UTC

iLoveOncall wrote: post #165

speedylight wrote: post #17

Considering how important an Apple ID is, this is kind of scary to be honest.

How important is it exactly? I have had iPhones for more than a decade, and I never leveraged any "feature" of having an Apple ID on any of them. I've never bought an app or spent money on one, and I don't use iCloud, so the Apple ID for me is literally just a gateway to downloading free apps that I can always redownload with another one.

If your device is associated with the "Find my Mac" "Find my iPhone" stuff, losing your Apple ID is the same as possibly (only possibly because you can still have user accounts with separate passwords and use the OS, but there will be limitations) bricking your device.

You can't even wipe the hard drive and reinstall macOS without access to the associated Apple ID. This is a good measure to dissuade thieves from wanting to steal Apple devices, but it is a terrible measure from the point of view of a user who has lost their ID.

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Post by js4ever » Sat, Apr 27, 2024, 4:24 PM UTC

grork wrote: post #302

What’s the overlap between people who had their password reset, and people who used/signed up for Beeper iMessage verification?

none it seems, some users that just bought an iphone 2 days ago had the issue today in this thread

Re: Apple users are being locked out of their Apple IDs with no explanation

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Post by GoblinSlayer » Sat, Apr 27, 2024, 4:26 PM UTC

zadokshi wrote: post #296

GoblinSlayer wrote: post #282

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What would happen if you send them a realistic, but fake generated scan?

How many laws would that break?

It breaks a law when you are legally required to authenticate. But when a random dude on the internet asks you, you're not required to do anything.

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Post by toast0 » Sat, Apr 27, 2024, 4:29 PM UTC

CatWChainsaw wrote: post #268

layer8 wrote: post #266

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Using your own email account doesn’t generally make things more difficult.

I'm thinking of Microsoft Accounts on PCs and how you need to know how to jump through hoops to avoid them at OOBE. And about how this is about AppleIDs and losing them - it's my understanding that Apple is less aggressive about AppleIDs than Microsoft is about Microsoft accounts, but also, TFA. Google has similar levels of fuckery especially if you're on Chromebooks but Google's sin is nonexistent customer support.…

The thing that really bugs me about Google is you can make an account tied to an unrelated domain, but then they don't let you use that for a lot of things, so you're forced into a gmail account.