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> Why do people think it is a good thing to have this enforced by law is beyond me. Personally, I am happy to see that some governments still care about consumer protection.
Protecting me from using my existing cables? Gee, thanks.
This won't apply retroactively, new iphones after X date will have to be shipped with USB-C
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The connector can still remain the same while the internal changes. USB-C is just the connector head. Look at USB4 that still uses the USB-C head. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB4 It's just like we have new modern electronics, but they are all able to plug into the same wall sockets. I don't have to remodel my home.
That doesn't really answer the question, though. Is the USB-C connector going to be the best connector for everything on into the future? What about mag-safe-like connectors? Wireless? Something you and I can't even think of right now? Introducing such a connector won't be an engineering challenge so much as a political one. The barriers and cost will be much higher, and quite possibly insurmountable from a practical…
And you can always add another type of plug next to the existing one. <- this answers your question
Everyone upset about losing lightning. Apple will 'malicious compliance' this and keep the lightning port and just add a USB-C port that does charging and nothing else.
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In 10 years, when we've moved from USB-C to something else, iPhones in EU could still be stuck on USB-C because they are forced by law. In terms of progression, my phones since 2004 have gone: proprietary flip phone stuff, 30-pin iPhone, micro usb, usb-c, usb-c. Time will tell if USB-C sticks around, I suppose.
Wow I Can't Believe My Android Phone Still Uses Micro-USB Since That Was Forced By Law!!! Please think about what you're saying for a moment
I have no sympathy or love for Apple, but this seems wrong. Technology comes and goes, standards evolve and fall away as new ones arrive. I don't think the law has any place in deciding who uses what connector in this fashion. They can make an e-waste argument all they want, but it's nonsense. All it does is stifle future work on connectors and devices in general.
Edit: It's actually the Commission, not parliament that's allowed to change standards.
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A LOT of less waste maybe ? It is very inconvenient and a hassle to have 5 different cables for 5 different devices. It is a waste of space, materials... The economic gains by volume continent wide should not be underestimated.
Do you actually have data on that though? I see that kind of argument get thrown around but it is never substantiated. How will usbc lead to less waste? If you wanna make that argument, wouldn’t it be better to force companies to opt you out of getting chargers and cables unless you explicitly ask for them when you make the purchase?
This is supposed to "prevent e-waste", but I can't imagine how. Like I've switched between iOS and Android, and I didn't just throw all my lightning cables out. Now with them being made actually useless rather than not what I'm using right now , it's going to create so much e-waste when every iPhone user switches cables. Seems like it's doing the exact opposite of what it's intended.
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> Why do people think it is a good thing to have this enforced by law is beyond me. It's not, we're glad SOMEONE is forcing them to take this direction, but it's really sad (and potentially damaging) it had to come to this. > As to lightning port limitations, I question whether usb-c will give average iPhone users any other advantage other than charging their phone. What are people gonna do with it other than charge…
Is the USB2 speed a limitation of the Lightning connector, or is it that Apple just doesn't care to improve this? Because if it's the latter, as you say, there's no guarantee we'll see improved speeds because of the port change.
https://www.apple.com/uk/shop/product/MK0W2ZM/A/lightning-to...
Apple never made a USB3 to lightning cable.
This gives me some cognitive dissonance. On the one hand, having a common connector will reduce waste and be much more convenient (eg "Hey have you got an iPhone charger?") and make losing a charger a cheaper mistake. On the other hand I'm not sure I like the idea of government mandating electrical connectors on devices, which could stifle innovation, or be very shortsighted in the typical government-rules-on-tech wa…
Thank God nobody ever standardized electrical plugs. I'd hate being able to plug my vacuum cleaner and laptop in the same outlet.
I have no sympathy or love for Apple, but this seems wrong. Technology comes and goes, standards evolve and fall away as new ones arrive. I don't think the law has any place in deciding who uses what connector in this fashion. They can make an e-waste argument all they want, but it's nonsense. All it does is stifle future work on connectors and devices in general.