Live data from Hacker News

EU Passes Law to Switch iPhone to USB-C by End of 2024

macrumors.com

241–250 of 1001 posts

Re: EU Passes Law to Switch iPhone to USB-C by End of 2024

#241
post #33

LET'S GO EU! These headlines make me proud. Let's reach a global standard for charging stuff. I wish everything that had to be charged sometimes had a USB-C plug. But also I hope that the USB standard gets less messy in the future.

What if a device doesn't need all the extra pins in the USB-C connector? What if it only uses VBUS/D+/D-/GND?

Nothing happens-- most connecters on most devices have unused pins.

Re: EU Passes Law to Switch iPhone to USB-C by End of 2024

#242
post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Less waste after iPhone users all have to throw away their cables and buy new ones, presumably?

There is more waste this year, but in 10 years there is less waste.

In 10 years, we'll be on USB5/6 and who knows what that cable will look like

Re: EU Passes Law to Switch iPhone to USB-C by End of 2024

#243
post #33

LET'S GO EU! These headlines make me proud. Let's reach a global standard for charging stuff. I wish everything that had to be charged sometimes had a USB-C plug. But also I hope that the USB standard gets less messy in the future.

There is no reason for USB to improve any further, because now it has to be used by law.

Amazing that people still don’t get it.

Re: EU Passes Law to Switch iPhone to USB-C by End of 2024

#244

Why do people think it is a good thing to have this enforced by law is beyond me. I don't see any win besides a minor convenience. A lightning cable weighs almost nothing and it's not a big deal to have one around. As to lightning port limitations, I question whether usb-c will give average iPhone users any other advantage other than charging their phone. What are people gonna do with it other than charge their phone…

> I don't see any win besides a minor convenience. A lightning cable weighs almost nothing and it's not a big deal to have one around. The standardization is good for a lot of purposes: - cutting down on the number of cables and especially chargers. Seriously, it's amazing to have one single Anker 65W power supply and a single cable on vacation and it can charge everything - tablet, work phone, laptop, power bank, dr…

> If there is one thing that drives EU legislation ideas, it is the convergence towards open and common, market-wide standards. This reduces the barriers to entry for small players and leads to more innovation as a result.

Too many people don't understand that trade agreements are about common standards and accountability.

There is a lot of noise about EU regulations made by people who are stuck in 18th century mindsets about trade and who fancy themselves as "free traders".

Re: EU Passes Law to Switch iPhone to USB-C by End of 2024

#245
post #71

Why do people think it is a good thing to have this enforced by law is beyond me. I don't see any win besides a minor convenience. A lightning cable weighs almost nothing and it's not a big deal to have one around. As to lightning port limitations, I question whether usb-c will give average iPhone users any other advantage other than charging their phone. What are people gonna do with it other than charge their phone…

A LOT of less waste maybe ? It is very inconvenient and a hassle to have 5 different cables for 5 different devices. It is a waste of space, materials... The economic gains by volume continent wide should not be underestimated.

Do you actually have data on that though? I see that kind of argument get thrown around but it is never substantiated.

How will usbc lead to less waste?

If you wanna make that argument, wouldn’t it be better to force companies to opt you out of getting chargers and cables unless you explicitly ask for them when you make the purchase?

Re: EU Passes Law to Switch iPhone to USB-C by End of 2024

#246

This is great in the short term, but does the law covers what happens when a superior format is invented in a few years. Are we stuck legislated to the old plug?

No superior format will be invented, because it would be illegal to use it anyway. This is how progress is destroyed. It’s not the first time.

Re: EU Passes Law to Switch iPhone to USB-C by End of 2024

#247

Why do people think it is a good thing to have this enforced by law is beyond me. I don't see any win besides a minor convenience. A lightning cable weighs almost nothing and it's not a big deal to have one around. As to lightning port limitations, I question whether usb-c will give average iPhone users any other advantage other than charging their phone. What are people gonna do with it other than charge their phone…

In 10 years, when we've moved from USB-C to something else, iPhones in EU could still be stuck on USB-C because they are forced by law.

In terms of progression, my phones since 2004 have gone:

proprietary flip phone stuff, 30-pin iPhone, micro usb, usb-c, usb-c.

Time will tell if USB-C sticks around, I suppose.

Re: EU Passes Law to Switch iPhone to USB-C by End of 2024

#248

Why do people think it is a good thing to have this enforced by law is beyond me. I don't see any win besides a minor convenience. A lightning cable weighs almost nothing and it's not a big deal to have one around. As to lightning port limitations, I question whether usb-c will give average iPhone users any other advantage other than charging their phone. What are people gonna do with it other than charge their phone…

> I don't see any win besides a minor convenience. A lightning cable weighs almost nothing and it's not a big deal to have one around. The standardization is good for a lot of purposes: - cutting down on the number of cables and especially chargers. Seriously, it's amazing to have one single Anker 65W power supply and a single cable on vacation and it can charge everything - tablet, work phone, laptop, power bank, dr…

  and especially chargers
Eh? The iPhone charges over a USB-Lightning cable. There are USB-C and USB-A versions of the cable available. The charger was never the issue. In fact Apple stopped including (USB) chargers with the iPhone a while back.

Re: EU Passes Law to Switch iPhone to USB-C by End of 2024

#249

This is great in the short term, but does the law covers what happens when a superior format is invented in a few years. Are we stuck legislated to the old plug?

No, the law allows for technological innovation if the usb group proposes a new connector, or if the industry wants to move to another connector. It will require some lobbying though, but the big tech companies are well skilled in that.
Post reply on HN