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Post by germinalphrase »

t8e56vd4ih wrote: post #237
ryandrake wrote: post #90

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It's not that amazing: They do it because they can, and they know that everyone around them has learned to be helpless to stop it. Consequence-free belligerence is endemic here (I'm assuming USA), because it's usually not against the law and when it is, nobody is willing to stop it. And if you take action against it, you're the one in trouble. So the bullies get free rein.

yes, this. what do you think would be hypothetically an apt repercussion? maybe a few drops of butyric acid down a window pane?

I’ve heard that anti-SUV activists somewhere in the Nordics would place a small stone under the air valve cap and the screw it back on causing the tire to slowly go empty over the course of a day. Inconvenient, nondestructive - but also not very kind.

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Post by SauciestGNU »

nsxwolf wrote: post #238
Spivak wrote: post #182

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It's single-handedly the best perk of being white in the US. I hate it, it's straight up dystopian, but you can't argue with the benefits of being above the law for anything less than like murder. Being white means I do things like speed, do drugs at parties and concerts, jaywalk, be drunk in public, trespass -- err sorry urban explore, set of fireworks on the 4th without so much as a second glance.

Go on a ridealong. You'll be arresting white people all day.

Yeah it's certainly more nuanced than just race. There has to be the right intersection of race, class, and social network to be above the law in the United States. But I'd essentially guarantee those white people being arrested all day are poor white people and generally not middle- or upper-class white people.

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Post by Sohcahtoa82 »

thepasswordis wrote: post #168

Worse than motorcycles are cars with a "pop and bang tune". I can hear these things literally for miles, and they run all day and all night. It's extremely annoying. Here's an example of what I mean: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DChy9sKVhEo Somehow the police do almost nothing about this stuff (except what NY is apparently going to do), but the federal government has the time to force tesla to remove the "make far…

The only reason to get a mod like that is because you're a psychopath that likes to piss people off for entertainment.

Pop and bang tunes sound like utter shit. They make your car sound broken, and offer zero performance benefit.

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Post by [deleted] »

JKCalhoun wrote: post #129
alistairSH wrote: post #8

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But loud pipes save lives! /s We have a similar problem. Replace "motorcycle" with "bro-dozer" and make it 4am. Noise sucks. And since the pandemic lockdowns have lifted, it's even more abrasive. Those few months of relative quiet were marvelous. Where I live, it's a lot of tire noise from a highway over a mile away - just a constant background "brrrrrr" that I didn't notice before and can't ignore today.

Curiously, Harley sounds don't raise my hackles the way a loud sport-bike does. What are they, Ducati's or something? There is just something just so shrill about their sound.

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Post by ryan_lane »

kevin_thibedeau wrote: post #270
whartung wrote: post #108

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On a motorcycle forum, someone asked whether they should upgrade their suspension or their exhaust. I suggested that an upgraded suspension affects your quality of life, an upgraded exhaust affects everyone else. We don't need the windows open to hear the cars and such around here (and they're modern windows). We're near a freeway, but it's not the only culprit. The freeway is either silent or quite noisy depending o…

In NYC most of the offenders are motorcycles with the occasional Lambo man-children.

Most of the offenders are people honking, especially when stuck in traffic.

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Post by lotsofpulp »

asciimike wrote: post #252
zucked wrote: post #212

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This is happening in my major metro, as well. A kind of flippant attitude toward even the most basic of compliance seems to be taking root. Cars are running Stop signs and red lights without even slowing, the number of cars with no license plate displayed at all is on the rise and all of this seems to be happening at a time when enforcement is virtually non-existent. Even more alarming is that property crime (theft,…

> the number of cars with no license plate displayed at all is on the rise I have noticed this too, and am curious if it is: - DMVs being slow/understaffed or plates aren't available, but people need to drive - conscious negligence of simply not registering your car and betting it won't be enforced

DMVs have been easily accessible and you can even make online appointments in my state since before pandemic, but I see plenty of cars driving without license plates or without paying the annual car taxes (i.e. registration fees seen via sticker).

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Post by pandaman »

brimble wrote: post #73
asdfgasdfgasdgf wrote: post #51

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Next time you are in a car driving next to a Harley, listen to it. It will be quiet even at a stoplight and inaudible at speed. The road is a noisy place. Cars are soundproofed to deal with that. A loud engine antagonizes everyone not driving but drivers won't even hear it.

> Next time you are in a car driving next to a Harley, listen to it. It will be quiet even at a stoplight and inaudible at speed. Do they make Harleys totally different where you're from? Serious question, maybe your country has noise regulations the US doesn't, or something, so they have to modify them for that market. This isn't at all true in the US.

The post you're replying to is not about Harleys being silent in absolute sense but about their noise not standing out to drivers over the noise of other cars, car's own noise, and sound insulation.

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Post by Gigachad »

olivermarks wrote: post #34

I wonder legally how 'loud' is assessed. A microphone is subject to a number of environmental anomalies- wind direction, a box truck next to a vehicle reflecting sound back to the mic etc. A camera is a good visual representation of a vehicle being over a line, visual location speeding evidence accompanying data etc. This pilot project seems dangerously arbitrary. (Not a fan of overly loud vehicles but I am of civil…

One acceptable method would be that getting caught subjects you to having an inspection done to test your vehicle. With enough cameras, it would become too difficult to keep swapping parts for tests.

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Post by brokenmachine »

rabuse wrote: post #236
whartung wrote: post #108

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On a motorcycle forum, someone asked whether they should upgrade their suspension or their exhaust. I suggested that an upgraded suspension affects your quality of life, an upgraded exhaust affects everyone else. We don't need the windows open to hear the cars and such around here (and they're modern windows). We're near a freeway, but it's not the only culprit. The freeway is either silent or quite noisy depending o…

To be fair, riding a quiet motorcycle is likely to get you sideswiped more if the people can't hear you at all. I've noticed the difference of head movements when changing the exhaust on my new motorcycle, from stock to a louder aftermarket. Prior, people would just veer into my lane without even checking. Anecdotal, but very noticeable difference for myself.

Yeah, if I rode around with speakers blasting at 130dB and flashing fog lights, people might look at me too.

But I don't do it because people would think I'm a selfish asshole.

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Post by klyrs »

bequanna wrote: post #266
throwaway984393 wrote: post #128

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And to charge black people and not charge white people. Noise is noise. There's no need to be discretionary.

Ugh. This is so tiresome Why do some people find it necessary to turn every discussion into some racism witch-hunt?

The Stop and Frisk policy was a racist witch hunt. This isn't a hypothetical about policing in general, or even NYC cops in specific. And yeah, I'm sick of racism too. But blaming the messengers isn't doing any good.
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