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New York is using cameras with microphones to ticket loud cars

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Re: New York is using cameras with microphones to ticket loud cars

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Post by iqanq »

jmpman wrote: post #2

Good. I look forward to this enforcement in my city. I currently live against a major road. During the night, the traffic noise isn’t disturbing, except for about one vehicle in a thousand. And that motorcycle wakes me at 3am. For weeks on end. My neighbor’s kid’s motorcycle. On his way to work at 3am, has to gun it when turning out of the neighborhood, waking everyone. These are neighbors who had shot their next doo…

I'm not an authoritarian kind of guy but there are people who are better removed from society entirely.

Re: New York is using cameras with microphones to ticket loud cars

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Post by throwawaygh »

woah wrote: post #17
mschuster91 wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> These are neighbors who had shot their next door neighbor’s cat Jesus. At that point I'd go up to questionably legal methods to get these fuckers some justice. People who intentionally murder cats deserve everything that's coming for them.

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> If they shot into someone's house or even yard, they would be in jail.

That's optimistmic.

> If they shot the cat when it was in their yard it was loose and their actions were probably completely legal.

For domesticated animals like cats and dogs, this isn't true even on large personal tracts where shooting at nothing in particular is perfectly legal. You can't shoot someone's dog just because it's trespassing.

And this certainly isn't generally legal to discharge a firearm at a non-threatening animal in most any suburb or city (OP has "dozens of neighbors").

> They are an invasive species. There are many operations to cull invasive species (including cats) on a much larger scale. Why aren't you mad about those?

The comment about the cat is supposed to reflect on the character of the person driving loudly and abusing animals.

Just because wildlife management sometimes requires culling doesn't mean that animal cruelty is no big deal.

Re: New York is using cameras with microphones to ticket loud cars

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Post by treesknees »

>this new system uses a strategically placed sound meter to record decibel levels on the road, matching it to a license plate using a camera.

Are there more details as to how this works and how it prevents false positives? Would the rumble or crack of thunder and lightning trigger a microphone to incorrectly mark a vehicle as loud? Or are there algorithms processing the recorded sound beyond just pure dB/volume to determine if it's actually a muffler?

Re: New York is using cameras with microphones to ticket loud cars

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Post by olivermarks »

I wonder legally how 'loud' is assessed. A microphone is subject to a number of environmental anomalies- wind direction, a box truck next to a vehicle reflecting sound back to the mic etc.

A camera is a good visual representation of a vehicle being over a line, visual location speeding evidence accompanying data etc. This pilot project seems dangerously arbitrary. (Not a fan of overly loud vehicles but I am of civil liberties).

Re: New York is using cameras with microphones to ticket loud cars

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Post by jackson1442 »

jmpman wrote: post #2

Good. I look forward to this enforcement in my city. I currently live against a major road. During the night, the traffic noise isn’t disturbing, except for about one vehicle in a thousand. And that motorcycle wakes me at 3am. For weeks on end. My neighbor’s kid’s motorcycle. On his way to work at 3am, has to gun it when turning out of the neighborhood, waking everyone. These are neighbors who had shot their next doo…

Similar deal here. Some asshole at my apartment got an expensive new car that literally the entire building (with god knows how many units, it's big) hears every single time he enters or leaves. He revs his engine twice on every single floor of the parking garage and all along the street I'm situated on. He'll even do it for hours on end (he did on Monday!). I honestly think he's trying to harass someone in particular because it's obscene at this point.

Literally one person. Always the same car. I am so sick of this shit. Management is sick of it but "can't do anything." I have yet to meet a neighbor who is not aware of this problem and sick of it.

I'm honestly amazed at the audacity of these people.

Re: New York is using cameras with microphones to ticket loud cars

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Post by cassac »

udfalkso wrote: post #4

One egregiously loud motorcycle rolling through manhattan can be a nuisance to literally millions of people. This is unreasonable and a ticketing system like this makes a ton of sense. Police enforcement could probably solve the issue just as effectively. Cops ignore loud honking and loud cars when its right in front of them. If they would just stop ignoring such things the frequency would surely go down as well.

That’s because the last thing anyone wants is a loud noise complaint to escalate into a shooting.

Re: New York is using cameras with microphones to ticket loud cars

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Post by [deleted] »

antisthenes wrote: post #14

Can we start using something like this with light meters to ticket obnoxious LED beams that have not been properly retrofitted into older cars? It's extremely obvious which cars these are when you're driving at night. That these people are endangering dozens of other cars on the road is lunacy.

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Re: New York is using cameras with microphones to ticket loud cars

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Post by jdprgm »

Tangent: We should outlaw leaf blowers in cities while at it. It's february and freezing out and for some reason the idiotic management in the apartment across the street has contracted some crew to do daily leaf blowers on nearly completely clean sidewalks disturbing probably hundreds of people WFH. Not to even mention how particularly awful leaf blowers are for the environment.
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