So shot spotter but for cars. We know how well that system works... My biggest gripe isn't loud cars, but loud motorcycles. Yes there are loud cars here, but 9/10 it's a harley.
New York is using cameras with microphones to ticket loud cars
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#82In case some people confuse "freedom" with just being a douchebag.
Living in the calm and quiet East Flushing, I now put my noise cancelling headphones on without anything playing, just to walk through the morning Manhattan.
The mosaic of noises is so jarring that I would come to my desk already all riled up, before I even sat down.
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#83Earlier quoted context omitted.
> But loud pipes save lives! /s Bikers actually say that with a straight face. It drives me bonkers. If I look at any list on the internet about top 10 ways to stay safe on a motorcycle, none of those lists will include "loud pipes". Yet, those same bikers will ignore other items on those safety lists like wearing brightly colored high visibility jacket/vest.
Next time you are in a car driving next to a Harley, listen to it. It will be quiet even at a stoplight and inaudible at speed. The road is a noisy place. Cars are soundproofed to deal with that. A loud engine antagonizes everyone not driving but drivers won't even hear it.
It's not generally other drivers that are detrimentally impacted by loud cycles/vehicles (though there have been numerous times I got spooked by a rider gunning it to lane split next to me). The problem is for the people relaxing, trying to unwind in their homes being constantly assaulted by road noise.
Edit: and the idea that a big Harley chopper idling at a stoplight isn't ridiculously loud is absurd. "FUD DUD DUD DUD DUD"
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#84Fantastic! I live in south Queens next to the Brooklyn border and good lord the idiots here with their loud cars. Every night it's a cacophony of revving engines, tires screeching and exhaust bangs. You hear the same bullshit sound repeatedly every god damn day. Usually a slammed mustang, infinity or BMW with a two step or whatever that noise making exhaust mod is and either an instagram tag or car club name. And its not just a few cars but a culture around here. You see these clown cars parked all over the neighborhood and I know a few spots where they congregate and street race. The city's response so far has been to install speed trap cameras all over the damn place and nothing else. And people are complaining, loudly, but no one has been seemingly listening.
Though my gripe about this is: Many of those cars have questionable registrations with mostly PA and FL plates. Those guys purposefully gun it for the speed cameras as the tickets go nowhere. The city installed a speed camera the block before me and one night walking home from the store I saw a supra speed down the block, a residential street, at 50+ mph with middle fingers out both windows for the camera. I want these people to die.
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#85This is great, I am all for enforcing more quality of life measures over things like street sweeping. Ticket people who take two parking spots by not pulling all the way forward, loud cars, loud subs, etc. All the things that make living in a city that much harder. If you want to live in tight proximity with tons of people it is reasonable that you need to have a higher level of consideration.
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#86Illegal. One has a right to face their accuser per the Constitution. I also knew a guy where the toll booth reader sent him a ticket for a car from another state with the same license plate digits. Took him forever to prove it wasn't him. More draconian AI computer police is not the answer to this problem.
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#87On the one hand, I think red light cameras and automated speed traps are unconstitutional and there have been shady companies caught fixing them. I hate the idea of putting super sensitive microphones in public spaces and connecting them directly to police departments. But on the other hand, fuck loud cars and motorcycles, they are a menace to society, and they are the only thing that makes my blood boil, when they w…
how are they unconstitutional?
They arguably violate the right to confront one's accuser in court. Not sure if I buy that argument personally, since there's probably a technician who operates the camera system who could show up to court.
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#88Earlier quoted context omitted.
how are they unconstitutional?
You have no ability to question your accuser, because your accuser is a machine. The source code is proprietary. The data chain is secret. You have no ability to meaningfully audit it to see if it actually works or is making a lot of false positives.
Regular speed-guns have the same issues, though.
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#90Good. I look forward to this enforcement in my city. I currently live against a major road. During the night, the traffic noise isn’t disturbing, except for about one vehicle in a thousand. And that motorcycle wakes me at 3am. For weeks on end. My neighbor’s kid’s motorcycle. On his way to work at 3am, has to gun it when turning out of the neighborhood, waking everyone. These are neighbors who had shot their next doo…
Similar deal here. Some asshole at my apartment got an expensive new car that literally the entire building (with god knows how many units, it's big) hears every single time he enters or leaves. He revs his engine twice on every single floor of the parking garage and all along the street I'm situated on. He'll even do it for hours on end (he did on Monday!). I honestly think he's trying to harass someone in particula…
It's not that amazing: They do it because they can, and they know that everyone around them has learned to be helpless to stop it. Consequence-free belligerence is endemic here (I'm assuming USA), because it's usually not against the law and when it is, nobody is willing to stop it. And if you take action against it, you're the one in trouble. So the bullies get free rein.