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Post by Kye »

after_care wrote: post #209
cpach wrote: post #156

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That’s troubling. I don’t know where you live but at least in my locale many employers seem hesitant to hire newly-grads, even if they need to increase staff. Many companies seem to expect some other company to take care of the training. A degree is nice but until someone has gained experience that person first needs a company to take a chance on them.

When I graduated (5-10 years ago) internships were the best way to grain experience and stand out a bit above the rest in the full time hiring portion. 1. The company that hired the interns received a fantastic deal on labor. I think the company that hired me did it because they had an extra fully equipped desk that was going to waste without someone coding on it. 2. Not every student earned an internship, so gaining…

The hard part is finding one that's paid, or pays enough. Most people can't afford to do un(der)paid labor for the prospect of maybe, possibly, but maybe not getting a job. Being able to do unpaid labor selects for people with other things working in their favor.

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Post by dalbasal »

Brand, vision for the product and such are one thing. Vague demands and pressures by the financial sector are another.

Partly due to actual risk, and partially because of stigma... payment processing costs are substantially higher in "sin sectors." Often they use specialised services targeting just these industries.

I assume financing has similar issues. Merchant banks don't want to add a porn bond to their portfolio, and those who do want a premium. Premiums count for a lot these days. A valuation anti-premium, at the extreme end, might turn a billion dollar company into a $100m. Private tech company valuations can be quite squishy.

We have so much structure in the economy now. High finance has always been structured, but the lower tiers were more significant when startup valuations were more modest. Once valuations hit billions, finance is high finance more or less by definition. That means the high finance cabal has a lot of say.

Meanwhile, users are structured by Google, FB and a handful of others. AWS is gradually becoming both monopolistic and opinionated. Payments systems are bottlenecked, with a structure related to the high finance structure.

What does and doesn't get built, or succeeds in a highly structured world is different to a more free market situation.

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Post by vxNsr »

moksly wrote: post #225
duxup wrote: post #72

My understanding was that they were being cut off by payment processors and banks and that drove the decision. Was this resolved?

There are US laws that I can’t remember the names of which make financial institutions legally responsible (probably bad English) for crimes that happen on platforms they sell their services to. So VISA could be fined for any trafficking that happen on OnlyFans. This is also why Pronhub had to remove almost all their videos if they wanted to keep credit card services. As an European I’m a fan of laws that make platfo…

It’s more than that. Anyone who works for the company can be held personally liable for trafficking and distribution.

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Post by laputan_machine »

lugged wrote: post #257
pelasaco wrote: post #246

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In Germany, all Craftsmen are just laughing. Tiler, Carpenter, electrician, etc.. all of them have enough to do, can choose their clients and their wages. I understand that HN always will tend to talk about CS, but Craftsmen are doing their 40k/year, easily. The Salary potential is just increasing.

You know Devs can relatively easily get around 250k in NY / SF right? Trades are solid career choices but it's hard work and you expire at about the same rate as a software dev.

So sick of seeing these wildly inflated numbers, they increase after every post I'm sure. Most of us here who are software devs are not earning close to 150k, stop using a few SF salaries as the baseline for the rest of us. It is really annoying.

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Post by gunfighthacksaw »

jkestner wrote: post #274
pwned1 wrote: post #154

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Every single job I've had in my adult life (I'm 42 years old now) was because I knew someone. It pays to know people and make friends/connections. I got started with an unpaid internship in high school (every school should require that) and life grew out of that. [edit] And my family was anything but "traditionally professional." I had no connections whatsoever through my family.

Pretty much the same here. Many of those connections were from school, going all the way back to elementary. So as a parent now, I feel like part of my job, for better or worse, is to nurture their friendships and maintain them with playdates once they aren’t in the same school.

I can’t say I blame you, but it really leads to a society stratified on uncontrollable factors and puts a bullet in the idea of meritocracy. You can’t control who your parents are or the culture you grew up in, but these have no impact on your job performance unless you live in a highly nepotistic society.

Maybe an “affirmative action” type program for the socially disadvantaged is necessary, but I can’t see that gaining much support when addressing the more glaring disparities (racial, gender) is controversial enough.

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Post by LegitShady »

Daedren wrote: post #174
busymom0 wrote: post #157

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I would also like to know on whether it's possible for someone to start their own payment processors? There are tutorials on how to start an ISP, so should be possible for payment processors too no?

No because the banks from which the payments come from must support said processors. Many countries have their own local payment processors, but it's still only a country-wide thing.

Sounds like a cartel gatekeeping the role of processor, and then the processors can put pressure on any business to do what they want or face “the consequences” which means no income (aside from crypto which most people don’t know how to use).

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Post by marc_io »

wly_cdgr wrote: post #214
rootsudo wrote: post #36

My biggest shock was how much "PR" was generated on Reddit, and how many sexworkers really do use the platform. I knew it was a thing, I knew of the memes, but to see both sides in arms over a company vs branding, creating their own website and content - and vanity domain as well. People really do just want a one click solution for creating adult content, and consuming adult content. And the memes, I think they're pr…

Of course there was a big outcry. It's like if Etsy announced they were gonna ban candles, or Kickstarter said they were gonna ban dice and cards. You think all those people would want to go create their own sites? You think it would make any sense for them to do that? Come on

It could be better for some of them in the long run, who knows. The fact is that there's no absolute security in either choice, but with a personal website at least you are in control, you have your “domain”.

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Post by TedDoesntTalk »

whymauri wrote: post #106
CabSauce wrote: post #100

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Getting a degree in a field that has jobs helps too.

It helps, but for many it was/is not enough. Trust me, the job search was brutal even as a computer science graduate from MIT. I had an offer and it was revoked (and companies that I had offers from pre-pandemic would not engage anymore). I'm almost certain that I have classmates who had OF at one point during the last year and I know for certain from Twitter there's Ivy League, Cal, and Stanford students on there. E…

> I have classmates who had OF

What is OF?

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