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Looks like TikTok is slowly imploding. I know there's plenty of political implications and a lot of discussion here is on that (which is interesting in its own right), but I wonder if there's opportunity here for a potential competitor.

There is absolutely no evidence of that, its users still love using it.

Re: Amazon says email banning TikTok from employee phones was ‘sent in error’

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post #109

Looks like TikTok is slowly imploding. I know there's plenty of political implications and a lot of discussion here is on that (which is interesting in its own right), but I wonder if there's opportunity here for a potential competitor.

Tiktok isn't imploding, its broadly a bunch of old men (senators, CEOs) afraid of china. The userbase of tiktok is tweens and teens. The best thing those old men could do is legislate system level privacy protections onto IOS and Android so an app can never get the level of info they're worried about.

Ninja, the biggest (English-language) video game streamer in the world, just posted yesterday that he's deleting TikTok for these concerns.

I'm not going to get into whether or not this actually makes sense, but he is a massive celebrity among young millennials/gen-z.

Re: Amazon says email banning TikTok from employee phones was ‘sent in error’

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I don't get why people are OK with a company being able to wipe a personal device on a whim. If you want full control of my mobile, then provide a mobile.

My understanding is that they can only wipe the work profile. Is that not true? (Android).

If you're using the Android MDM thing on a personal device it only wipes the work profile.

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post #163

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is the jury still out on whether MBS knowingly sent him that hack? that is, not to put too fine a point on it, a fast path to becoming even more of an international pariah than he already is

Tricking a [EDIT: thanks 'spyspy!] WaPo journalist into visiting a consulate and then chopping him into pieces with a saw while he screamed and cursed you? Dropping bombs to kill hundreds of thousands of Yemeni children? Making the people of Saudi Arabia somehow less free? Those things were pretty bad sir! But now you've gone too far! How dare you peep on our first trillionaire while he's courting outside his marriag…

All whilst being propped up for decades by the USA for geopolitical objectives??!

It's not an accident that one of the stupidest, most theocratic countries in the middle east receives the most weapons and support from the USA.

We don't want a strong middle east. This is why countries like Iran, Lebanon, Syria are labelled as "terrorist".

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Tell me a single good social app from Google. I'll wait. It's not like they didn't try, but all of them seem to suffer from the design by committee syndrome.

YouTube? It's the second largest social media site in the world: https://buffer.com/library/social-media-sites/

They bought it after it had already established its market presence.

They have tried to launch at least 2 of their own, and both flopped hard.

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Jeff Bezos, Amazon CEO, got his phone hacked and embarrassing text messages stolen off it from a vulnerability in the video parsing library in WhatsApp in a message sent to him by Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman in 2018. So Amazon as a company is now very sensitive to what applications are installed on staff devices and how data on those devices can be extracted from vulnerabilities in other installed apps. Th…

>in the image parsing library in WhatsApp in a picture message sent to him by Your link says >Bezos' phone appeared to be infiltrated after he opened a video file sent from the crown prince's number on WhatsApp.

A video is a series of pictures, so not "technically" inaccurate...

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Sure, the blog post below covers it, and the vulnerability was probably CVE-2019-11931. You can do an awful lot with a buffer overflow if you're clever. https://www.okta.com/blog/2020/04/what-the-jeff-bezos-whatsa...

Does anyone have a "explain it like I'm 5 but took some CS classes back in college"? I know that if you craft your buffer overflow just right it will overwrite other parts of memory with the new function. But how do you know what parts will get overwritten? Does that mean the new function can do almost anything?

There are multiple techniques that might be used (and countermeasures that might have to be bypassed) but these links should get you started -

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/14760587/how-does-a-nop-...

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/49620893/return-into-lib...

And yes, arbitrary code execution is a common goal of these exploits, though it may not always be possible--sometimes you only get a DoS attack or such.

Re: Amazon says email banning TikTok from employee phones was ‘sent in error’

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If any company expects me to access my work email while mobile, they have to provide a phone. I never mix work and personal. I've also never had a company say no to that.

Adding another anecdote, when I said I did not want to let work control my mobile phone, my boss told me I could figure out whether I wanted to keep the job or not

What if you don't have a smart phone?

Re: Amazon says email banning TikTok from employee phones was ‘sent in error’

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tricking a [EDIT: thanks 'spyspy!] WaPo journalist into visiting a consulate and then chopping him into pieces with a saw while he screamed and cursed you? Dropping bombs to kill hundreds of thousands of Yemeni children? Making the people of Saudi Arabia somehow less free? Those things were pretty bad sir! But now you've gone too far! How dare you peep on our first trillionaire while he's courting outside his marriag…

All whilst being propped up for decades by the USA for geopolitical objectives??! It's not an accident that one of the stupidest, most theocratic countries in the middle east receives the most weapons and support from the USA. We don't want a strong middle east. This is why countries like Iran, Lebanon, Syria are labelled as "terrorist".

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Re: Amazon says email banning TikTok from employee phones was ‘sent in error’

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TikTok and Chinese apps in general are having a tough day. While nothing malicious has been conclusively shown—save for iOS pasteboard spying which it seems EVERY app is doing—I suspect that this is a geo-strategic move by the US and our Allies to dominate and flex economic power over China.
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