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Or host it for free in one of Oracle's cloud 'always free' tier VMs. Disclaimer: I'm an employee
Does it have public IP?
It does
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#302If I were to use a VPN I'd stick with providers with proven track records of responding to court orders with empty logs, not the company with a CEO who capriciously kicks sites off their platform in response to online mobs. I'd also feel very uneasy with continuing to feed the consolidation of the internet's traffic. Giving full control of your phone's routing to Cloudflare is sold as improving performance, but what…
This is funny to me because CF's previous reputation was that they'd do business with anyone no matter how scummy. They're notorious for selling to both sides when criminal gangs were DDoS'ing each other. But they terminate service for a grand total of two sites and suddenly they're "capricious".
As far as I know, CloudFlare are still willing to provide service to all of the DDoS services that let anyone with a few dollars knock any company which doesn't buy from CloudFlare off the internet. They just don't have the excuse that they're doing it out of some kind of belief in free speech anymore.
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I forget the status of that, you may be right! That'd be a large deploy too. The intention was to do that, for sure, I'm just not sure if it shipped or not.
Stylo (Rust rewrite of CSS engine) shipped for Android in Firefox 60, released in 2018. https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Firefox/Rel...
Awesome! Thanks for letting me know.
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And why should they? WireGuard is free† so it seems (to me) a bit futile trying to shame them on a niche site like HN and expect them to change their behavior and support the community that they draw from. Mind you, this problem is not limited to Wireguard/Cloudflare. The NTP servers, curl, libssl prior to Heartbleed, the list of important open source software in need of funding goes on. It's fighting also a basic re…
> And why should they? Because that's a sensible thing to do when someone's open source project is at the very core of your commercial product? > When was the last time someone you know paid Redhat for CentOS or Canonical for Ubuntu on principal? Netflix and Tarsnap have donated to FreeBSD Foundation multiple times[1], and Jan Koum has donated over $1 million after selling WhatsApp[2]. Also, look at how many companie…
Sensible isn’t really the right word here. It’s sensible to buy a support contract. It’s charitable and good PR to give them money.
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#305Cloudflare WARP is an easy-to-use free VPN which protects your IP address from businesses who haven't paid Cloudflare yet.
Companies like InfoUSA can convert 95% of US IP addresses to physical addresses and household resident names. By inserting themselves in the network between users and websites, Cloudflare will soon be able to get a chunk of InfoUSA's advertising profits.
Remember, if you aren't paying for it then you are the product.
Stay away from Cloudflare WARP and use a real VPN.
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#306I was openly critical of Cloudflare when they announced Warp the first time. My accusations were over-reaching, and I ultimately retracted them. But I'm still skeptical, and I still won't use Warp. Here's what still bothers me: Cloudflare is a single company with points of presence all over the world, handling traffic for websites all over the world (including some big ones), and now trying to attract consumers world…
Early on in Cloudflare’s history when we were asked who our competition was we said Facebook. The concern was that the challenges of being online would get so hard that individual websites would give up and just move to run Facebook pages. We saw our role as providing the security and performance needed to compete without making you give in to use an all-consuming platform. We haven’t said that in a long time, but I…
I have always thought it’d be super interesting if Cloudflare owned Twilio (or vis versa)
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#307Earlier quoted context omitted.
> And why should they? Because that's a sensible thing to do when someone's open source project is at the very core of your commercial product? > When was the last time someone you know paid Redhat for CentOS or Canonical for Ubuntu on principal? Netflix and Tarsnap have donated to FreeBSD Foundation multiple times[1], and Jan Koum has donated over $1 million after selling WhatsApp[2]. Also, look at how many companie…
Sensible isn’t really the right word here. It’s sensible to buy a support contract. It’s charitable and good PR to give them money.
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#308I was openly critical of Cloudflare when they announced Warp the first time. My accusations were over-reaching, and I ultimately retracted them. But I'm still skeptical, and I still won't use Warp. Here's what still bothers me: Cloudflare is a single company with points of presence all over the world, handling traffic for websites all over the world (including some big ones), and now trying to attract consumers world…
Early on in Cloudflare’s history when we were asked who our competition was we said Facebook. The concern was that the challenges of being online would get so hard that individual websites would give up and just move to run Facebook pages. We saw our role as providing the security and performance needed to compete without making you give in to use an all-consuming platform. We haven’t said that in a long time, but I…
The fact that this names four companies and remains an effective analogy is deeply troubling. There should be so many actors in all of these spaces that listing them would be a challenge.
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Thanks, this should have been obvious in hindsight. One more for people with cell phone plans that don't adhere to net neutrality: Warp can probably bypass quality caps on video streaming. Traditional VPNs are strictly better than Warp+, as far as I can see, but the free version of Warp is a generous offering for users who would otherwise not be using a VPN.
Warp excludes many sites from traffic routing (like video)
Are you sure? Some comments like this one say that Warp affects YouTube speed:
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>The most important thing to us is users don't expect us to keep their IP private I would dare to say you're wrong. It's one big reason I wouldn't/won't use Warp.
I think that you're in agreement; he seems to have meant that it was important that Cloudflare clarify to users that their IPs will not be masked.
On the app stores it's shown as a privacy tool. Nowhere they make it clear, which is honestly a bit sad.