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I bought a Switch from Nintendo and they threatened me with legal action

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Post by crankylinuxuser »

ramzyo wrote: post #196
crankylinuxuser wrote: post #44

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This is SOO true. I ordered some circuit boards from Seeedstudio (good and cheap board fab, btw). I paid extra for DHL to get them quicker. I submitted my boards to Seeed (Shenzhen) October 10. On Oct 16, said they were shipped to DHL. Awesome. Told DHL via their webapp and text messaging that "I do not need signature. Drop at doorstep". 10 boards were a whopping $5. Guaranteed delivery by 19'th, cause thats what I p…

I’ve had similar experiences with delivery companies (UPS seems to be the worst for me) over the years, and sort of just accept now that this happens from time to time. After all, the “fucknut idiot” delivery driver is just a person who can makes mistakes like the rest of us. If they don’t deliver on time, I reach out to customer service and ask for a refund (works well, if you can put up with the hassle of calling)

Making a mistake is getting the house next to yours. You know, making good-faith attempts that are a mistake. This wasn't a mistake. At all.

"Making mistakes" and malicious compliance of literally driving by and not stopping are 2 very different things. Shows up on their GPS they were "there".

I was at the house, sitting on my screened-in porch when DHL 'updated' to "Sorry you didnt sign". First, I said no sig needed. Then they didn't even bother to stop. I WATCHED THEM DRIVE BY. They didn't do their fucking job.

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Post by dboreham »

emodendroket wrote: post #234
dboreham wrote: post #155

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Unfortunately package theft is common. Our neighborhood suffered several thefts and eventually the police put fake packages with GPS trackers into the delivery boxes then waited to see where they went. They ended up in the house of the person who delivered the newspaper..

I got dire warnings from my neighbor when I bought my house that package thieves were on the loose (along with warnings about coyotes and heroin addicts). So far the packages have been fine and I haven't seen any coyotes or heroin addicts either, so hopefully my run of good luck continues.

We have package theft and coyotes. So two of out three ain't bad..

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Post by dboreham »

cjsuk wrote: post #160
dboreham wrote: post #155

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Unfortunately package theft is common. Our neighborhood suffered several thefts and eventually the police put fake packages with GPS trackers into the delivery boxes then waited to see where they went. They ended up in the house of the person who delivered the newspaper..

Happens here in London, UK. Amazon like to leave packages on my doorstep. Stolen every single time. To fix this they appear to have left instructions to "sling it over the back fence" or "jam it in the letterbox and destroy it".

I was amazed to learn that the USPS leaves packages on the door step, always. I mean this was a surprise to me because I grew up in the UK where said package would be stolen in short order, and then for the past 20 years living in the US I was in either apartments where there is no doorstep, or out in the wilds where the postman doesn't come within a few miles of your doorstep. I'd never been in a situation where the post office were able to leave a package on my stoop. But now we have an office location in town with a bone fide door step, right on a busy street and they leave packages in plain sight. When I expressed surprise I was told this is standard procedure for the USPS everywhere. I have a security camera pointed at the door step and so far no thief has stepped forward to have their picture taken...

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Post by emodendroket »

dboreham wrote: post #302
emodendroket wrote: post #234

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I got dire warnings from my neighbor when I bought my house that package thieves were on the loose (along with warnings about coyotes and heroin addicts). So far the packages have been fine and I haven't seen any coyotes or heroin addicts either, so hopefully my run of good luck continues.

We have package theft and coyotes. So two of out three ain't bad..

I mean I'm sure all that stuff is going on somewhere, but, irrational as it may be, as long as I personally haven't encountered it I don't feel compelled to take any particular countermeasures.

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Post by akgerber »

nothrabannosir wrote: post #108
jakub_g wrote: post #77

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I live in France and in the working hours of the delivery guys I'm at work in a different city. I ordered a number of things to my personal address, and the story is typically like: "package delivered" with some strange message from the delivery guy where to find it, or no message at all. Out of the last 3 things I ordered, 2 didn't get to me (I made a claim on Amazon and they reimbursed me, no questions asked - at l…

Amazon lockers are the best thing since sliced bread. They put the ball back in your court to pick it up, when you have time. Removes the stress completely and makes ordering pleasant again. Keep an eye out for them, if you can.

Every time I've looked for one in NYC, there are none around within 5 miles.

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Post by noncoml »

> Some will point out (and some have!) that I could have quite easily saved myself a lot of time, hassle, and lost earnings at this point by just quietly holding on to the extra Switch and saying nothing to Nintendo about it. It certainly would have saved me a lot of stress, but it was morally not something I’d ever consider.

There is no room for morals/ethics when dealing with faceless mega-companies.

You are not dealing with an individual here. Which individual would demand you to be home all day waiting for the courier for a mistake they made?

What I would do is store the parcel away unopened for a few months to a year. If in the mean time somebody asks it back, they can have it, otherwise it would go to the trash.

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Post by rrhd »

Does the UK not have consumer protections for delivery mistakes like this?

Should have had every right to tell them to get fucked and keep the switch the second they threatened him. They sent it to him, they can eat the loss. if they don't want to then they can politely offer to get you a return shipping label and apologize for the trouble.

This type of thing sounds about right for Nintendo.

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Post by lifeformed »

noncoml wrote: post #306

> Some will point out (and some have!) that I could have quite easily saved myself a lot of time, hassle, and lost earnings at this point by just quietly holding on to the extra Switch and saying nothing to Nintendo about it. It certainly would have saved me a lot of stress, but it was morally not something I’d ever consider. There is no room for morals/ethics when dealing with faceless mega-companies. You are not de…

> otherwise it would go to the trash.

You wouldn't open it and keep it?

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Post by kazagistar »

apostacy wrote: post #173
grecy wrote: post #124

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> That's his mistake right there. He was under no moral obligation to fix Nintendo's mistake for them......If you truly have a guilty conscience, then just throw the extra package out, because it is abandoned property. Do you really want to live in a world where everyone does this? Imagine you are a small start-up where every penny counts and make the odd mistake here and there and people take advantage of that, dest…

You are not taking into account that Nintendo is not a small startup, or an individual. I always go out of my way to help people who need it. I've always found people who've lost cell phones, and I have returned incorrectly shipped items that I have gotten on Ebay and Etsy. There is a world of difference between a startup or a person, and Nintendo. Nintendo can afford this loss, and maybe they will improve their deli…

Treat others as they would want to be treated. Humans should be treated with kindness, respect, and forgiveness. Hypercapitalisitc international conglomerates should be treated with apathy, taking any advantage of any loophole that you can possibly get away with legally. Given how "they" treat others, its only fitting.

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Post by kazagistar »

macspoofing wrote: post #229
apostacy wrote: post #75

Some will point out (and some have!) that I could have quite easily saved myself a lot of time, hassle, and lost earnings at this point by just quietly holding on to the extra Switch and saying nothing to Nintendo about it. It certainly would have saved me a lot of stress, but it was morally not something I’d ever consider. That's his mistake right there. He was under no moral obligation to fix Nintendo's mistake for…

>He was under no moral obligation to fix Nintendo's mistake for them. He was under no legal obligation. But it was the moral thing to do.

Morality only applies if it applies bidirectonally, and corporations couldn't give two shits about morality.
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