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Post by krzyk »

athenot wrote: post #40
romanovcode wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, maybe if author would charge 7 bucks in total instead of 7 bucks per month he would not have this problem.

I have not used Nylas but if email is a tool that is integral to your productivity, paying for a tool that helps you is not a far-fetched idea. It's the same as with text editors. There are plenty available for free but if there's one that happens to help you in your work, paying less than 0.1% of your income can hardly qualify as excessive. At $7/month, if this tool saves you 10 minutes a month, it's worth it.

It is worth if it weren't a subscription model. People are reluctant to have another monthly bill. Give me a price for the package and be gone with it.

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Post by lewisl9029 »

e0m wrote: post #106
yoasif_ wrote: post #39

Is there a build available which doesn't require users to sign up for a Nylas ID? The support page states that "If you’re using N1 against our open source sync engine, you’ll still need to create a Nylas ID." Given the privacy policy says that Nylas shares information with third parties and that they can "make a copy of the entire contents of the applicable email inbox, calendar, and contact book", it doesn't feel li…

Nylas Mail Basic does NOT store your mail data in the cloud. It still uses a cloud service for some features (like read receipts), but all the data is local on your disk and auth credentials stored in your native OS keychain. Nylas Pro currently syncs in the cloud to enable some of the pro features not currently offered in Nylas Mail Basic and to provide a much easier to use modern API wrapper around mail data. The c…

Thank you for making the sync engine work client-side! It's a huge step towards making Nylas a viable choice for privacy sensitive folks like myself.

The next step would be to make features like "read receipts" that necessitate signing into a cloud optional. Being able to use the app without having to sign into a cloud platform would be a much more valuable feature for me than any feature such a cloud platform could enable.

Aside: as mentioned elsewhere in the thread, tracking pixel based read receipts in particular, is overwhelmingly only used in spam and newsletters and I personally consider it to be a liability rather than a feature.

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Post by ocdtrekkie »

e12e wrote: post #287
ocdtrekkie wrote: post #181

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And in that case, you can surely run your own Nylas sync engine server alongside it. Which still adds no new security issues with using Nylas.

This comment made me smile. Mostly because it threw a new a new light on what I was already thinking; self-host (love how my phone assume I mean "self-hatred", not "self-host", btw) the whole stack, and avoid new security issues that come with forced hosting in hostile jurisdictions. But take a new daemon that talks a cross product of tls/ssl and three(?) protocols, is supposed to parse random emails, expose it to th…

It's reasonable to point out this, true. But in the scope of the parent discussion, it was about NSLs from hosting in countries with compromised providers. If you are running your own mail server, you have mostly the same security issues you need to zealously guard against, wherever you put it.

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Post by __david__ »

karim wrote: post #169
skierscott wrote: post #140

I debated switching but the lack of IMAP support in the free version turned me away. That's the only feature I want Nylas Pro and it's not worth $12/mo.

Nylas Basic supports generic IMAP accounts. We don't show them in the list of supported providers for QA reasons but you can still add such an account like this: https://imgur.com/a/WBdXe (By the way, feel free to open a Github issue if you're encountering problems syncing your IMAP account: https://github.com/nylas/N1/issues/ )

I'm stuck at the "Connect an Email Account" screen. The "Add Custom IMAP Account…" menu item does nothing when I select it.

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Post by scrollaway »

cookiecaper wrote: post #261
bpizzi wrote: post #200

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> It brings us enough pain as the only practical client-side language on the web. That's plainly wrong. The list of praticals client-side language on the web is actually pretty vast: https://github.com/jashkenas/coffeescript/wiki/list-of-langu... . Of course you can't write a piece of, say, typescript, and just include it in your HTML and call it a day. You need to compile it first, and you need some tooling for that…

It's different from using a C++ compiler to build a Qt application because it's in the opposite direction. Qt is a toolkit that lays on top of C++, which your compiler translates to machine code. Qt is still C++. Everything is the same language and gets compiled directly into the code that the machine knows how to execute. With JavaScript transpilers, this happens in reverse; there is an entirely separate secondary l…

It'd be easier to take your post seriously if you showed you knew enough about what you're talking about not to mistake Grumpy for a transpiler.

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Post by ldev »

Ugh, Emojis are thing for very informal conversations - your friends. Seeing them splattered in somewhat official statement looks so out of place and unprofessional.

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Post by shardo »

jyrkesh wrote: post #222
grinich wrote: post #16

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Coming soon! We just didn't have enough time to QA it. Should be ready in a couple of weeks. (Windows too)

I was a bit bummed to not see Windows support either...especially when there's a screenshot showing how to install on Windows on the download page. I registered for an account thinking that an auto-download had already started, so I was extra disappointed by a "Coming soon" prompt. Just felt a little bait-and-switch-y.

Same, felt dishonest and a bait to get me to signup.

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Post by bpizzi »

cookiecaper wrote: post #261
bpizzi wrote: post #200

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It brings us enough pain as the only practical client-side language on the web. That's plainly wrong. The list of praticals client-side language on the web is actually pretty vast: https://github.com/jashkenas/coffeescript/wiki/list-of-langu... . Of course you can't write a piece of, say, typescript, and just include it in your HTML and call it a day. You need to compile it first, and you need some tooling for that…

It's different from using a C++ compiler to build a Qt application because it's in the opposite direction. Qt is a toolkit that lays on top of C++, which your compiler translates to machine code. Qt is still C++. Everything is the same language and gets compiled directly into the code that the machine knows how to execute. With JavaScript transpilers, this happens in reverse; there is an entirely separate secondary l…

> Bugs at runtime will have to be debugged as the transpiled language, not as the code you originally wrote.

Wrong, source maps solves that problem well enough. Granted, it's not as coherent as a single compiler, but yet, it works.

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Post by bpizzi »

cookiecaper wrote: post #264
bpizzi wrote: post #204

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> Sure, nobody will kill HTML and JS, but that's not the point. Yes, it is the point. Nothing more, nothing less. > Nobody knows how UIs will be built with web technologies in two years! You can't say that things like es6/react/typescript/clojurescript will be plain gone in two years, there's too much real momentum behind these things.

There's real momentum behind a lot of things, including C and FORTRAN. That doesn't mean your next project is necessarily going to be written in either C or FORTRAN. The crop of JavaScript derivatives are probably not going to disappear, but riddle me this: while there are many variations on JavaScript's syntax, why do other languages that are arguably JavaScript competitors, like Ruby and Python, not have the same w…

> I personally think it's a bad sign when so many people feel they need to write a transpiler to add some syntactic and behavioral enhancements. The language should provide a functional, livable set by default, at least good enough that writing a transpiler doesn't sound like the time-effective solution.

You focus too much on ES5. It's not about the language, it's the platform.

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