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Which client blocks remote images by default? Is it a cli or gui?
I think he meant Gmail
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#202Earlier quoted context omitted.
Unless your recipients use email clients that don't load remote http images except on demand. I can think of one email client with ~15 million users that does that.
Which client blocks remote images by default? Is it a cli or gui?
Alpine, gui of sorts
K9, gui Android (think it blocks by default, or I turned off auto load when I installed ages ago).
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#203How is this different than Mail and every other email client in existence? Don't get me wrong, it looks extremely good. However, I visited the site and immediately clicked on the back button. I've been using Google Inbox for a few months, and it radically changed how I handle my many mailboxes. It's not rare now that I actually achieve inbox zero. I would love to see the same amount of innovation that was put into Go…
Nylas Mail Basic and Nylas Pro are all built on an open source, highly extensible, modern platform. This lets us deliver a very familiar clean experience out of the box while supporting the ability to add an enormous number of very powerful features very quickly. Everyone uses email slightly differently. The plugins allow us to build Salesforce integration, tracking, templates, and mail merge for sales people, while…
Your goals seem to be different than mine (and there's nothing wrong with that).
I'd rather lose Salesforce integration, tracking, templates etc. and get the basics right: going through the dozens of emails we get every day.
When we reply to emails we feel like we're being productive, but we're just taking time away from our actual job. If there's no easy way to easily differentiate between low priority and important emails—which Google Inbox does automatically by grouping them and letting you dismiss them all at once—you're not helping me.
Again, the product looks awesome, this is just my point of view I thought I'd share.
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> JavaScript is NOT the first language to provide cross-platform GUI. Of course it's not. > There is no reason to use JavaScript just so you can get a "cross platform GUI". The main reason (imho) is that "JavaScript" (as you call it, but you should say "the web platform") is more future proof than "old toolkits". Qt would be the best candidate for a "cross platform GUI", but you are relying on the [Qt company/nokia/w…
Your message left me scratching my head. How can JS be more future-proof than old UI toolkits when JS libraries and frameworks are constantly changing? Sure, nobody will kill HTML and JS, but that's not the point. Nobody knows how UIs will be built with web technologies in two years! Edit: based on your reply below, it looks like I have to spell it out. GUIs are built with UI frameworks, not just with programming lan…
> Sure, nobody will kill HTML and JS, but that's not the point.
Yes, it is the point. Nothing more, nothing less.
> Nobody knows how UIs will be built with web technologies in two years!
You can't say that things like es6/react/typescript/clojurescript will be plain gone in two years, there's too much real momentum behind these things.
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JavaScript is NOT the first language to provide cross-platform GUI. Such toolkits are very old. Gtk, Qt, wxWidgets, and many others serve this functionality and have bindings across dozens of languages. There is no reason to use JavaScript just so you can get a "cross platform GUI".
Gtk is not very cross-platform. It looks non-native on Windows, and it's so non-native on macOS that you have to run an X server just to see it. wxWidgets seems to be abandoned (their bindings don't even have a Python 3 release, which would happen right away if anyone cared). Most of these provide dated UI elements that people don't want to work with. Qt perhaps is holding up the best, but I can see why people prefer…
What do people expect nowadays from their toolkit?
It can't be performance, because Electron is slow. It's not conservative power usage, because browsers are power hungry. It's not disk space or memory usage either.
Nor is it a native-looking UI. Nor security. Nor privacy. Nor accessibility.
The only thing I can think of is that it's free and allows the typical web developer to avoid learning anything new.
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#206How is this different than Mail and every other email client in existence? Don't get me wrong, it looks extremely good. However, I visited the site and immediately clicked on the back button. I've been using Google Inbox for a few months, and it radically changed how I handle my many mailboxes. It's not rare now that I actually achieve inbox zero. I would love to see the same amount of innovation that was put into Go…
I love Google Inbox as well. The one downside that bothers me is its performance. It can be very slow and tends to gobble up resources the longer you have the tab open. I'm constantly on the lookout for a native desktop app that matches its features and ease of use.
Try WMail, if you're on a Mac (not sure if there's a Windows/Linux version).
It's what I use, and I've notices a good improvement over the web version (besides the fact that it's in the Dock, with unread count).
There's a helper that takes up about 300MB of memory, but it's stable at 300, never goes up.
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#207I used Nylas for a while after it was first released and really liked it. Then one day out of the blue I started getting sync errors and it basically stopped working (I've talked to multiple people that this happened to). After spending a couple hours, removing, reconnecting, re-installing, all with no success I gave up and stopped using it (actually attempted using again a month or two later with the same results). Would've been great to have local sync from the beginning as I actually might've paid to use it if I wouldn't of encountered so many issues and lost time trying to fix them. Now it looks like everything that I used to use and like about the app is only included in the paid version, and there's no way I'm going to pay just to see if they fixed the issues.
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#208They were charging money for an electron based app?
Engineers to build software using Electron cost money.
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Is not about the first (and this is more about html/css than JavaScript). Is about the easier to work out, specially for custom styling and do custom widgets. Not get me wrong, I don't like much JS/html apart as be hostage as everyone else to use it in the web, but is clear that as far to build the GUI is way more enjoyable than most GUI toolkit.
I think you need to prove that a (custom) UI is easier to build with HTML/CSS compared to QML. Or even plain old QWidget. It can't be that web developers have been bitterly complaining about how poor HTML and CSS are at building UIs for years and years and suddenly it's become easy and enjoyable.
> suddenly it's become easy and enjoyable.
Actually it has become easy and enjoyable ;) Even for complex UIs.
Just think seriously about what a stack like es6/React/Redux brings on the table against plain old ES5, and you'll be struck by how well things have become.
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#210I open the page and have no idea what Nylas is. I click on the logo and I'm taken to the blog home page, where 60% of the screen is the Nylas logo with no subheader telling me what it is. I click on it again and it just refreshes the blog index. No link to nylas.com. How do so many people make the same mistake?
Heck, I clicked thinking maybe "Nylas Mail" was the name of some political prisoner.