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> such a rare occurrence It depends on your driving style.

Do you find yourself driving into ponds and lakes often?

No, but I do drive sideways from time to time. I would hate it if my car applied the brakes at one of those moments.

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Your ski gear goes on a rack on top of or behind the car, both in the Cayenne or in the Model X ( http://www.teslamotors.com/tesla_theme/assets/img/modelx/sec... )

Wonder how rear-mounting compares to top-mounting for overall drag. Anyway, for most users, I imagine you're not driving around with ski gear on your car 99% of the time, so it's a reasonable design decision.

Rear mounting is drastically more efficient.

I was going to cite this article as a source, but I see that there aren't any numbers: https://www.google.com/search?q=mr+money+mustache+road+tripp...

Linked anyway for your interest.

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> premium families For a second I thought you are referring to 'premium family' as some kind of a social category.

Of course he is, where I live in the US 142k could buy you a nice 1400 square foot house.

Mine is 1400 square feet in a major city and I only paid 130k. You're getting ripped off!

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Fun fact: The MPG of my full size truck decreases by almost 50% when towing. So if the Tesla gets better than 50% of it's range while towing, I'll be impressed.

Is your truck gas, or are you towing way more than 5000 lbs? My guess is it would get better than 50% of its range because while you're (practically) doubling the weight, that doesn't matter because of the regenerative braking. Electric cars spend most of their energy fighting drag (as evidenced by people taking a model S almost 600 miles on one charge at 20 mph) and a 5000 lb trailer probably won't double the drag p…

Direct comparison to a full size, gas (or otherwise) truck is probably not wise (my bad). Built for completely different purpose, a better comparison would be a traditional SUV or CUV.

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Most SUVs are seven seaters. Even most minivan's are now 7 seater.

"Most" is a bit of an overstatement. (Fortunately) many SUVs still don't have third-row seating. To be honest, I find the shift from minivans--which do a much better job of seating a bunch of people--to SUVs that consume a lot of interior space with seats a bit unfortunate.

"Most" as in the direct competition to the Model X. Yes, some manufacturers have large 8 seaters (Yukon, QX56, Pilot, Sequoia) but those are all massive vehicles and I don't think the Model X is competing with those. I think the competition is the smaller SUVs such as the Q7, SRX, MDX,GX, X5, GL550, and XC90, all of which are 7 seaters.

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Most SUVs are seven seaters. Even most minivan's are now 7 seater.

The pilot is pretty popular as an 8 seater. It's rear seats fold flat giving you a reasonable cargo area when you don't have the 3 people in the third row. The seats themselves aren't very cramped, but getting in/out is not great.

I'm not sure many Pilot buyers will also be Model X buyers ($30K vs $100K)

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They already announced it. It's called the Model 3. From Elon Musk's Twitter: @elonmusk $35k price, unveil in March, preorders start then.

35k is not something normal people can afford.

It better be something normal people can afford, because that's about the average price these days. Then again, you haven't defined "normal".

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Full disclaimer, I work for a somewhat prestigious air filtration company. I agree the wording is a little bit on the strange side. However, if they are saying that it's a "bioweapon defense mode" they should probably be saying that they can catch 0.03 microns as opposed to 0.3 microns. That is virus level small. There should also be several filters in there, a large particulate filter for the big stuff, an activated…

> UV ends up not being worth it because you'd have to replace the bulb almost on a monthly basis. I have a UV system on my home A/C, and the bulb usually burns out once every two years (and it's always on). I'd imagine this would be greatly extended if in place in a car when it's not always on. Am I missing something?

The effectiveness of a UV lamp decreases with age, so they can stop being effective long before they actually burn out. There should be a manufacturer rating on the lamp, which will depend on its composition and other things.

As an example the lamps I use have a rating of ~8000hrs, about a year, but to the outside observer they'll still look functional until they blow after 2-3 years.

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I am confused by the fancy doors. The driver door seems to open as usual, no? Doesn't that mean that in a tight space I am no better off than with a regular door ?

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Roughly estimated carbon production of manufacturing (I got these numbers from a german discussion, one source for battery carbon production is: http://www.focus.de/auto/experten/duennes/oekobilanz-von-ele... ): ------------------------------------------ VW Polo GTI: 2 tons BMW M5: 2,5 tons BMW I3: 4 tons Tesla Modell X 13 tons Manufacturing + 100.000km: -------------------------- BMW I3 -> 9,6 tons VW Polo GTI -> 18…

And? If you drive a car for 100,000 miles and it gets 30mpg the whole time, that produces about 65 tons of CO2.

If the EV car gets its power somewhere clean, that ends up being about 13 tons total. For now we get some mix of dirty and clean energy, but that mix can at least be improved. Burning the gallon of gas will always produce 20 pounds of CO2[1].

[1]http://www.eia.gov/tools/faqs/faq.cfm?id=307&t=11

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