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Re: Meet Model X

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"It's the perfect SUV for your family + ski gear + showing off just a little bit that you're really wealthy." Gull-wing doors seem less than perfect for transporting ski gear.

Your ski gear goes on a rack on top of or behind the car, both in the Cayenne or in the Model X ( http://www.teslamotors.com/tesla_theme/assets/img/modelx/sec... )

It's not going on top of the Model X unless you don't want to open the doors.

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post #207

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Unless you live in Germany you're not really ever going to hit that top speed. You will however have ample chance to take advantage of the acceleration.

The above poster is drawing a distinction between faster (top speed) and quicker (acceleration). Auto-journalism usually uses this language. In everyday speech, "faster" is ambiguous.

The origina posted qualified it with 0-60, which lets you know he means acceleration. A car can't have a "faster" 60mph than another.

Re: Meet Model X

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Okay.. I'm a Model S owner and I love Tesla and I chuckled at the whole Insane mode and gave a bit of an amused snort at Ludicrous mode. This, however, really makes me wonder WTH is going on there: HEPA Air Filters "There are three modes: circulate with outside air, re-circulate inside air and a bioweapon defense mode that creates positive pressure inside the cabin to protect occupants ." EDIT: Very fair points about…

Full disclaimer, I work for a somewhat prestigious air filtration company. I agree the wording is a little bit on the strange side. However, if they are saying that it's a "bioweapon defense mode" they should probably be saying that they can catch 0.03 microns as opposed to 0.3 microns. That is virus level small. There should also be several filters in there, a large particulate filter for the big stuff, an activated…

> UV ends up not being worth it because you'd have to replace the bulb almost on a monthly basis.

I have a UV system on my home A/C, and the bulb usually burns out once every two years (and it's always on). I'd imagine this would be greatly extended if in place in a car when it's not always on. Am I missing something?

Re: Meet Model X

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Which is a little bit misleading, as the Model S starts at $70,000, but the cheapest Model S that's "equivalent" to a Model X (third-row seats, 90kWh battery, etc.) is over $90,000. So that phrasing might lead one to think that the Model X starts at $75,000, while it's probably $95,000 or more depending on just which features they consider to be equivalent.

There will be a Model X 75D or 80D at some point

True, I didn't think about that. They haven't announced any, but that doesn't mean they won't.

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The doors actuate on two hinges and have sonar to detect both horizontal and vertical clearance during all movements. They will adapt to both low ceilings and low side clearances, and need only about a foot of space on either side of your car to open. In the video, Musk talks about garages with small ceilings and then shows a video of the doors opening in one. If there's enough space for you to pull in and get out of…

I wonder how they adapt to having snow on the roof.

If there is too much snow on the roof to use the falcon doors then you should have the driver get in up front, push on the accelerator for 4 seconds and then push on the brake. Now you can circle back and get the kids.

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I guess Tesla isn't going to get around to making a car that normal people can afford anytime soon, then.

They already announced it. It's called the Model 3. From Elon Musk's Twitter: @elonmusk $35k price, unveil in March, preorders start then.

35k is not something normal people can afford.

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So with the falcon wing doors you couldn't open up passenger seats in your standard garage. I'd suspect people who could afford this wouldn't have a standard garage anyways though.

Let's say you take your AWD SUV up to your cottage in the mountains, or to a ski resort, and you've got 6" of snow on top of your car. What happens when you open the doors?

You clear the snow off before opening the back doors. You should be clearing it off before you drive anyway so it's not much of a difference.

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It's not fair to compare the Model X to a Sedan. Do you have numbers for other SUVs? Remember the idea here is that it's assumed you'll be buying a car already. Also, even if the total lifetime carbon was equal, it's still better to buy a vehicle that produces all that carbon in localized places where it could possibly be captured instead of all over crowded urban areas.

I just want to mention some facts. EVs are interesting and the future for sure but thinking EVs are the holy grail is just stupid. http://www.digitaltrends.com/cars/hold-smugness-tesla-might-... How do you can capture carbon?

I think what jedberg meant was that if you are producing the electricity at a centralized place (like even a coal-fired power plant) you could theoretically capture carbon using massive scrubbers on the exhaust towers. Developing similar technology and installing it in all of the individual gas-burning cars would be near impossible.

My 2c: The real "secret plan" here is that converting us to electric vehicles paves the way to develop (and creates structural demand for) 0-emission ways to recharge them, like:

- resurgence of large nuclear plants

- self-contained micro-nuclear reactors that you could bury in your yard

- solar on your garage (paired with a Tesla Powerwall to recharge your car at night)

Re: Meet Model X

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post #61

Seven seats car seems to address a very small niche.

Most SUVs are seven seaters. Even most minivan's are now 7 seater.

The pilot is pretty popular as an 8 seater. It's rear seats fold flat giving you a reasonable cargo area when you don't have the 3 people in the third row. The seats themselves aren't very cramped, but getting in/out is not great.

Re: Meet Model X

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"Model X is the safest, fastest and most capable sport utility vehicle in history." From any other company I would roll my eyes at the ridiculous hyperbole. Here, it's probably just a statement of fact.

Cool thing is, they could actually claim "safe" in a bigger sense of the word that most companies do not. Zero emissions is safer for everyone over the long term. I'd want to see a cradle-to-grave carbon footprint analysis first, though.

Personally, I'm much more impressed by the crash safety than stuff like emissions.

It's hard to get people to care about emissions. But almost everyone has been in a car crash at some point. Most people know someone who has been killed or severely injured in one.

What makes Tesla remarkable is that their EVs aren't just good EVs, they're good cars. Previous EVs were basically sold as, "Well, this is kind of a crap car, but it doesn't burn gasoline!" And then people wondered why there were few buyers. Being extremely safe is a big part of that whole "good cars" thing.

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