Meanwhile, in America, the government is shut down to try to stop poor people from receiving subsidies on their private health insurance.
This is not an appropriate venue for chanting political slogans.
Swiss to vote on 2,500 franc basic income for every adult
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#32Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes we Swiss have this weird habit of voting against things that look like they would be a benefit for us (in the short term). I voted against more paid holidays as I think 4 weeks (minimum) is enough and forcing everyone to raise it to 5 would hurt the economy. Similarly I'd vote against this proposed bill if I still lived in Switzerland as I don't see how it could work, despite it being generally an intriguing idea…
Now I'm curious about the possibility of immigrating to Switzerland... Ha. Sort of seriously.
Edit: it might not be the canton that votes for you, but the commune. I get these confused all the time.
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#33Earlier quoted context omitted.
Every adult gets 2500/month, so a family of 2 adults + 3 children would get 5000/month which is nowhere near enough in most places in Switzerland.
I was thinking of a family with five adults. No reason for the children to leave such a profitable nest. The other scenario is a group of adult friends or relatives.
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#34Meanwhile, in America, the government is shut down to try to stop poor people from receiving subsidies on their private health insurance.
This is not an appropriate venue for chanting political slogans.
That would actually be what this is an appropriate venue for, not your contentless dismissal.
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#35The basic income vote followed this process, and though it gathered enough interest to warrant people voting on it, it has little chance of passing.
Interestingly a similar vote recently passed which limited the income in a company to a factor of 12 (i.e: the CEO can not make more than 12 times the lowest salary of his company) which wasn't expected of switzerland (a rather liberal and conservative country)
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#36Re: Swiss to vote on 2,500 franc basic income for every adult
#37Maybe I am too obtuse to understand how such things could work. What happens if nobody has a job? OK, that's a little extreme. Let's see, a family of five would get 12500 F per month unconditionally. That's probably a pretty good chunk of money for doing nothing. I see images of five to ten people living together to collectively earn 25000 F per month. In the same story they talk about limiting executive pay to 12x t…
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#38They've even voted on whether to abolish the military.
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#39Earlier quoted context omitted.
> just to give some recent examples and the most recent (not necessarily on topic) http://idpc.net/alerts/2013/09/switzerland-decriminalises-ca...
That was not through referendum, though. The dynamics are very different. Interestingly enough, when asked, the parliament tends to be more open to change and experimentation than the people.
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#40A country that values science, education, peace AND cares about the poor! Have I stepped into another dimension?