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Don't forget that the 9/11 attacks were planned out of Hamburg and that some of the WTC bombers of 1993 were living and captured in Germany.
How is that even relevant? How does that justify the interception of 500 million messages per month?
1) a decoy outfit whose entire purpose is meant to deflect criticism from China and Russia - who are in all likelihood the biggest receiving parties of American intelligence attention - which often complain about America's far-flung surveillance activities.
2) a conventional operation, by the NSA, involving "listening station" activities for the entire European region ( like at RAF Menwith Hill in the UK )that listens to chatter and helps thwart terrorist threats in conjunction with mainland intelligence agencies.
3) some other unknown listening operation that keeps tabs on primarily homegrown threats from militant Islamists and converts to Islam, in Germany.
a. CIA is said to have recruited Danish agent (and convert to Islam) Morten Storm to find a bride for radical anti-American cleric Anwar al-Awlaki. Croatian Muslim convert 'Aminah' - born Irena Horek - was recruited on Facebook by Morten Storm who claims he worked with the CIA to infiltrate al-Qaeda and became a matchmaker to the terrorists. )
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/12/31/article-2255280-16...
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/12/31/article-2255280-16...
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/12/31/article-2255280-16...
b. The members of the Hamburg cell were the key operatives in the 9/11 attacks. Around 4.3 million Muslims live in Germany, one of the larger compositions in Europe (5.4% of the population) or in any Western nation.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamburg_cell
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_Germany
Source:
http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=50137988n
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/20/world/middleeast/danes-wil...
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Seriously, what has Germany done to harm America after the war?
"Germany is similarly strong monitored such as China, Iraq or Saudi Arabia"
There could be many different explanations for that: 1: US foreign intelligence is incompetent. Viewing Germany or France as a military threat to America in 2013 is just nonsense. 2: The US uses its foreign intelligence to gain competitive advantages in businesses. I can't help wondering what kind of information flows the other way, i.e. from US government to US businesses, now that so many US companies have readily…
4: Germany has more internet traffic than other european countries and therefore the absolute number of monitored connections is higher in Germany than in the other countries.
I don't have hard numbers to back up 4., but
- Frankfurt DECIX overtook Amsterdam as the largest exchange
- Internet Census 2012 [1], Germany lights up like a Christmas tree, you can almost see the German borders
- Broadband coverage is fairly good [2]
[1] http://internetcensus2012.bitbucket.org/images.html
[2] http://point-topic.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/Studyonbro...
That headline is blatant editorialising and whether or not you consider what the NSA is apparently doing as an indication they view Germany as an enemy, the text of the article does not in any way support that the NSA itself sees it that way. (in case it is modified, this is the headline as of writing: "NSA: Germany considered an enemy. Intercepting 500mill messages per month")
"Aus einer vertraulichen Klassifizierung geht hervor, dass die NSA die Bundesrepublik zwar als Partner, zugleich aber auch als Angriffsziel betrachtet" ... sees Germany as a "military target". You're right, I should've used "military target" instead of enemy
Don't forget that the 9/11 attacks were planned out of Hamburg and that some of the WTC bombers of 1993 were living and captured in Germany.
How is that even relevant? How does that justify the interception of 500 million messages per month?
How many phone calls, e-mails and SMS does Germany generate per month in total, by the way? I would assume corporations generate a lot more than individuals, but it seems fucking bad either way.
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How is that even relevant? How does that justify the interception of 500 million messages per month?
It simply shows that there had been ongoing planning activities by terrorist cells in Germany.
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Probably not because our Pirate Party is only known for drama and the media portrays them as an disorganized bunch of kids who fight over internal power. Not that the media would be particularly wrong with this. When the party was founded I had some hopes ... now I have given up on them.
That reads like you have simply bought in to the media smearing. Sound familiar? See here in the UK, our media represent the whole of the EU like that. Don't give up, get involved.
These terrorist cell must be quite chatty if they intercept 500M messages per month.
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"Aus einer vertraulichen Klassifizierung geht hervor, dass die NSA die Bundesrepublik zwar als Partner, zugleich aber auch als Angriffsziel betrachtet" ... sees Germany as a "military target". You're right, I should've used "military target" instead of enemy
"Angriffsziel" in general is not synonymous with "military target". I'd translate it simply as "target".
