What have they ever done to deserve that?
Secret Documents: NSA monitored 500 million connections in Germany
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Re: Secret Documents: NSA monitored 500 million connections in Germany
#12"Germany is similarly strong monitored such as China, Iraq or Saudi Arabia"
There could be many different explanations for that:
1: US foreign intelligence is incompetent. Viewing Germany or France as a military threat to America in 2013 is just nonsense.
2: The US uses its foreign intelligence to gain competitive advantages in businesses. I can't help wondering what kind of information flows the other way, i.e. from US government to US businesses, now that so many US companies have readily granted access to user data to the US government.
3: The US targets Germany and other European countries because it's easy to spy on us. More American government agents know German or French than Arab or Chinese, and a bigger portion of Europeans have internet connection and we host more data in the Cloud than the Chinese or Iraqi population, especially we host more with the American companies that NSA has direct access to.
Re: Secret Documents: NSA monitored 500 million connections in Germany
#13What have they ever done to deserve that?
So the US has always been super buddies with Japan? http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/08/nsa-boundless-in...
Re: Secret Documents: NSA monitored 500 million connections in Germany
#14Don't forget that the 9/11 attacks were planned out of Hamburg and that some of the WTC bombers of 1993 were living and captured in Germany.
Re: Secret Documents: NSA monitored 500 million connections in Germany
#15Don't forget that the 9/11 attacks were planned out of Hamburg and that some of the WTC bombers of 1993 were living and captured in Germany.
How is that even relevant? How does that justify the interception of 500 million messages per month?
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#16Seriously, what has Germany done to harm America after the war?
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#17That headline is blatant editorialising and whether or not you consider what the NSA is apparently doing as an indication they view Germany as an enemy, the text of the article does not in any way support that the NSA itself sees it that way.
(in case it is modified, this is the headline as of writing: "NSA: Germany considered an enemy. Intercepting 500mill messages per month")
Re: Secret Documents: NSA monitored 500 million connections in Germany
#18What have they ever done to deserve that?
What does Germany have to hide......?
In fact, hello US gov, what do you have to hide?
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#19Earlier quoted context omitted.
Has there been polling as to whether support for German Pirate Party has increased?
Probably not because our Pirate Party is only known for drama and the media portrays them as an disorganized bunch of kids who fight over internal power. Not that the media would be particularly wrong with this. When the party was founded I had some hopes ... now I have given up on them.
That reads like you have simply bought in to the media smearing. Sound familiar?
See here in the UK, our media represent the whole of the EU like that.
Don't give up, get involved.
Re: Secret Documents: NSA monitored 500 million connections in Germany
#20That headline is blatant editorialising and whether or not you consider what the NSA is apparently doing as an indication they view Germany as an enemy, the text of the article does not in any way support that the NSA itself sees it that way. (in case it is modified, this is the headline as of writing: "NSA: Germany considered an enemy. Intercepting 500mill messages per month")
I agree. Germany was more of a "target", and considering involvements of the German muslim minority in 9/11 this isn't very surprising either.
Still I really don't like what the NSA is doing to us...