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How does DeepSeek work: An inside look

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Re: How does DeepSeek work: An inside look

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all data you submit to Google, OpenAI, Meta, Facebook, Twitter... is accesible by US government. The US government has been much more belligerent, and it's very natural to see DeepSeek as the lesser of the evils.

The CCP will never be the lesser of two evils.

CCP did not invade Iraq, Libya, Afganistan, bomb Syria or support the Palestinian Genocide.

Re: How does DeepSeek work: An inside look

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post #17

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As opposed to the US?

Yes. These are not comparable political systems. In the US, the information you share can be accessed by law enforcement with the approval of a judge if there's a crime suspected. But in cases where the government improperly accesses your data, they actually destroy their own case against you, because anything from that poisoned tree of evidence can be thrown out in court. Even when governmental power is abused in th…

> "In the US..."

I'm sorry, but your idea of how the US works is a complete fairytale. You need to get a serious reality check on how the US actually works in real life. The law in the US is applied selectively (depending on the profiles involved, severity of case, political backdrop, etc). There's plenty of corruption, misaligned incentives, and corporate meddling. I can't count the number of cases from the past 30+ years that demonstrate this.

Re: How does DeepSeek work: An inside look

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post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The CCP will never be the lesser of two evils.

CCP did not invade Iraq, Libya, Afganistan, bomb Syria or support the Palestinian Genocide.

> "CCP did not invade Iraq, Libya, Afganistan, bomb Syria or support the Palestinian Genocide."

1. There has been no genocide in Palestine.

2. CCP meddles in other countries to equal if not worse degrees - both militarily and politically/economically. Routinely imprisons and erases millions of own citizens. Works to annex territories that aren't part of China (today). Funds and arms Russia, Iran, Syria...

You seem like the kind of person that selectively applies and practices their morals, depending on whether the story aligns with your agenda.

Re: How does DeepSeek work: An inside look

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post #34
post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

CCP did not invade Iraq, Libya, Afganistan, bomb Syria or support the Palestinian Genocide.

> "CCP did not invade Iraq, Libya, Afganistan, bomb Syria or support the Palestinian Genocide." 1. There has been no genocide in Palestine. 2. CCP meddles in other countries to equal if not worse degrees - both militarily and politically/economically. Routinely imprisons and erases millions of own citizens. Works to annex territories that aren't part of China (today). Funds and arms Russia, Iran, Syria... You seem li…

you seem like a supporter of mass murder

Re: How does DeepSeek work: An inside look

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post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As opposed to the US?

Yes. These are not comparable political systems. In the US, the information you share can be accessed by law enforcement with the approval of a judge if there's a crime suspected. But in cases where the government improperly accesses your data, they actually destroy their own case against you, because anything from that poisoned tree of evidence can be thrown out in court. Even when governmental power is abused in th…

It weird how people pretend the Edward Snowden disclosures never happened.

Re: How does DeepSeek work: An inside look

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post #35
post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> "CCP did not invade Iraq, Libya, Afganistan, bomb Syria or support the Palestinian Genocide." 1. There has been no genocide in Palestine. 2. CCP meddles in other countries to equal if not worse degrees - both militarily and politically/economically. Routinely imprisons and erases millions of own citizens. Works to annex territories that aren't part of China (today). Funds and arms Russia, Iran, Syria... You seem li…

you seem like a supporter of mass murder

Stick to the facts and avoid ad-hominem attacks.

Re: How does DeepSeek work: An inside look

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Was this written by DeepSeek? Aside from not being in depth, it’s also inaccurate (MoE details and MTP misunderstanding).

I'm a bit curious to know what was inaccurate in it.

How about you go study first, instead of just trying to crank out AI generated slop. Absolutely no point in helping you correct your articles when they should instead be left obviously bad, so that they can be flagged.

Re: How does DeepSeek work: An inside look

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The headline says "an in-depth look", but the whole post is quite short and doesn't go into much detail. I found these overviews better: https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/a9GR7m4nyBsqjjL8d/deepseek-r... https://newsletter.languagemodels.co/p/the-illustrated-deeps...

Also https://epoch.ai/gradient-updates/how-has-deepseek-improved-..., it's a much better overview with technical details, but still very understandable to the educated layman.
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