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Hardly anonymous if it's widely known.
What is widely known? What's her name? Where does she study?
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#32Earlier quoted context omitted.
Australia is full of CCPs, especially corrupted officials, Canada and Australia are popular destinations because it is first world country with immigration policy. (especially their kids don't study well and are spoiled, it is not a problem for Australia apparently) Actually most students go to US are amongst the best students from China, either top students or really hardworking students, and most of them will be ex…
Foreign students pay 2-3x as much as Australians do to study in Australia. Allowing rich Chinese children to study abroad contributes a lot to Australia's economy and those high fees subsidise everyone else which allows keeping local tuition low, which is why Australia is so open to them.
> those high fees subsidise everyone else
Rather, they also elevate tuition costs for everyone and many schools are very lenient on cheating by people paying these high fees.
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#33https://www.voanews.com/amp/us-beijing-aim-to-boost-number-o... These days, only about 700 American students are studying at Chinese universities, down from a peak of close to 25,000 a decade ago, while there are nearly 300,000 Chinese students at U.S. schools. To add just a bit of context. I’m sure that foreign students have no restrictions placed on entry to the country, places visited nor are there any restriction…
> only about 700 American students are studying at Chinese This is ~100% COVID https://www.statista.com/statistics/374169/china-number-of-s... Australia had the same lockdowns as China, but because they had remote learning it didn't change a lot - https://www.statista.com/statistics/430276/number-of-chinese... Education is Australia biggest export after selling their dirt from their massive continent (75% of the USA…
> Why China is allowing it's citizens be propagandized by living their formative years in free democracies is crazy.
Honestly, many of the kids studying here look down their nose at the US and its people. They will have fun here, but many are in isolated bubbles with other Chinese students and don't befriend others.
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#35I'm honestly a bit appalled by the comments here.
Do people nlt see that it's wrong to discriminate an entire ethnicity because of certain bad actors? Is it alright to discriminate against black or marginalized people because a few are violent??
A lot of people also didn't read the article I think, this stretches beyond students to professors who have been working here for decades. Even my mother, who works in astrophysics can no longer collaborate with Chinese universities on astrophysics unless she wants suspicion.
I hope this fervor can end soon and we can once again separate science from politics. Even in the cold war science was not racialized in this way.
Another minor note, these students very much fund most of our universities and serve as brain-drain that is beneficial to us. Once again I'm pretty appalled by this comment section...
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#36It's surprising how few Chinese people study in America. With a population 1/14th of America, Australia has 150,000 Chinese students. The US entry refusals should be familiar fare to Chinese citizens though, as their Govt employs stochastic enforcement all the time, including for censorship and as part of trade disputes. It sucks for the individuals, but this really isn't about them, it's about the CCP and it's ongoi…
Australia is full of CCPs, especially corrupted officials, Canada and Australia are popular destinations because it is first world country with immigration policy. (especially their kids don't study well and are spoiled, it is not a problem for Australia apparently) Actually most students go to US are amongst the best students from China, either top students or really hardworking students, and most of them will be ex…
> either top students or really hardworking students, and most of them will be excellent engineers and scientists
Only true for PhD students. Most are just from rich/CCP's families.
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#37I'm honestly a bit appalled by the comments here. Do people nlt see that it's wrong to discriminate an entire ethnicity because of certain bad actors? Is it alright to discriminate against black or marginalized people because a few are violent?? A lot of people also didn't read the article I think, this stretches beyond students to professors who have been working here for decades. Even my mother, who works in astrop…
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#38Don't really see why that's surprising. If you are from: - China - Russia - Iran - North-Korea - Pakistan And some other countries, you should absolutely expect full to be under full scrutiny if you plan on working with anything related to research and development (which includes academia), infrastructure, or anything that poses a national security risk. The cold hard truth is that ( especially ) those nations send o…
Interesting that you added Pakistan to the list, have they ever been accused of espionage in the US? Or trying to hack anyone for sensitive information? Doesn't seem likely. Have any reference to this? I'm only seeing them in reference to India which would seem par for the course on both sides.
[1] Illegal nuclear proliferation
[2] Potential terrorism, it is a breeding ground for it. Lot of past perpetrators got training, planned it there or had some connection.
[1] https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/five-men-indicted-operating-i...
[2] Lot of Wikipedia pages on Pakistani involvement in terror attacks on US: San Bernardino shooting, aaifa siddiqui case, support for OBL etc
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#39The CCP really did a number on perception here with their thousand talents program and the naked espionage efforts.
It is not right if this is racial profiling but the blame for it is on the CCP. The article itself mentions that the numbers affected are a fraction of total Chinese students so I’m inclined to believe it is not racial in nature. It is more a response to Chinese pillaging of Western intellectual property, explicitly in the service of overtaking/dethroning the West.
Another example of what we as open society citizens must deal with, how do we tackle such issues without sacrificing our values.
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There was a time when I was always getting stopped and interrogated at customs coming into Seattle from Beijing. No one else on the Hainan flight I arrived on mind you, just me…I was the only white guy in the crowd of passengers who looked mostly Chinese also. Pretty sure they were profiling me, maybe they were just more suspicious of Americans?
Drugs... Or you had something unusual going on. They were very concerned when I was trying to fly from Amsterdam to the US on a one way ticket because I had a passport stamp from Iraq which, at the time, was impossible to get unless you were involved with government operations. And this one time I was stopped by Border Patrol at the Phoenix Greyhound station with zero reasonable articulable suspicion as a 30-somethin…
I was just a techie on a business trip. They were suspicious that my luggage was almost completely empty, because I would fill it up shopping in the states. They would always ask me why I was visiting China and I told them I lived there.
Smuggling drugs out of China sounded dumb back then, given how much more Chinese are strict on the issue than the Americans. But with fentanyl today it makes more sense.