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Chinese students in US tell of 'chilling' interrogations and deportations

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Do you think Xi Jinpings daughter studied in the US due to merit or corruption?

How would anyone here know that? She's not even unde her real name but under a pseudonim.

Hardly anonymous if it's widely known.

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How would anyone here know that? She's not even unde her real name but under a pseudonim.

Hardly anonymous if it's widely known.

What is widely known? What's her name? Where does she study?

Re: Chinese students in US tell of 'chilling' interrogations and deportations

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Don't really see why that's surprising. If you are from: - China - Russia - Iran - North-Korea - Pakistan And some other countries, you should absolutely expect full to be under full scrutiny if you plan on working with anything related to research and development (which includes academia), infrastructure, or anything that poses a national security risk. The cold hard truth is that ( especially ) those nations send o…

Interesting that you added Pakistan to the list, have they ever been accused of espionage in the US? Or trying to hack anyone for sensitive information? Doesn't seem likely.

Have any reference to this?

I'm only seeing them in reference to India which would seem par for the course on both sides.

Re: Chinese students in US tell of 'chilling' interrogations and deportations

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Don't really see why that's surprising. If you are from: - China - Russia - Iran - North-Korea - Pakistan And some other countries, you should absolutely expect full to be under full scrutiny if you plan on working with anything related to research and development (which includes academia), infrastructure, or anything that poses a national security risk. The cold hard truth is that ( especially ) those nations send o…

Interesting that you added Pakistan to the list, have they ever been accused of espionage in the US? Or trying to hack anyone for sensitive information? Doesn't seem likely. Have any reference to this? I'm only seeing them in reference to India which would seem par for the course on both sides.

Here in The Netherlands there was a big scandal in the 70s concerning Pakistani scientist Dr Abdul Qadir Khan who worked in a nuclear research lab and was accused of being a spy. He's regarded as the 'father' of the Pakistani atom bomb.

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https://www.voanews.com/amp/us-beijing-aim-to-boost-number-o... These days, only about 700 American students are studying at Chinese universities, down from a peak of close to 25,000 a decade ago, while there are nearly 300,000 Chinese students at U.S. schools. To add just a bit of context. I’m sure that foreign students have no restrictions placed on entry to the country, places visited nor are there any restriction…

I wonder how much of that is due to Covid, but I remember some stat like the number of people learning Chinese since 2008 was down at least 50% even before Covid, and that includes people studying in their home country.

The covid response by China's authoritarian dreamers is what did it.

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Australia is full of CCPs, especially corrupted officials, Canada and Australia are popular destinations because it is first world country with immigration policy. (especially their kids don't study well and are spoiled, it is not a problem for Australia apparently) Actually most students go to US are amongst the best students from China, either top students or really hardworking students, and most of them will be ex…

Do you think Xi Jinpings daughter studied in the US due to merit or corruption?

Neither, it's due to real politik.

It's better to have world 'leaders' talking than not, so you bite the bullet and send them to Harvard.

Re: Chinese students in US tell of 'chilling' interrogations and deportations

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As long as it’s aimed at people with Chinese citizenship and not anyone that looks remotely Chinese (e.g. Singaporeans, Koreans, etc), I’m not too concerned. They do have laws that force us to look more closely without devolving into pure racism.

Re: Chinese students in US tell of 'chilling' interrogations and deportations

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Don't really see why that's surprising. If you are from: - China - Russia - Iran - North-Korea - Pakistan And some other countries, you should absolutely expect full to be under full scrutiny if you plan on working with anything related to research and development (which includes academia), infrastructure, or anything that poses a national security risk. The cold hard truth is that ( especially ) those nations send o…

Interesting that you added Pakistan to the list, have they ever been accused of espionage in the US? Or trying to hack anyone for sensitive information? Doesn't seem likely. Have any reference to this? I'm only seeing them in reference to India which would seem par for the course on both sides.

Pakistan stole nuclear secrets from Netherlands, and then sold them to North Korea (in exchange for ballistic missile technology), Libya and Iran. The nuclear arsenals of all rogue nations threatening armageddon today (other than Russia) were midwifed by Pakistan.

Sources:

1. https://archive.ph/EgTF0

2. https://web.archive.org/web/20070701103529/http://www.pakist...

Re: Chinese students in US tell of 'chilling' interrogations and deportations

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Interesting that you added Pakistan to the list, have they ever been accused of espionage in the US? Or trying to hack anyone for sensitive information? Doesn't seem likely. Have any reference to this? I'm only seeing them in reference to India which would seem par for the course on both sides.

Here in The Netherlands there was a big scandal in the 70s concerning Pakistani scientist Dr Abdul Qadir Khan who worked in a nuclear research lab and was accused of being a spy. He's regarded as the 'father' of the Pakistani atom bomb.

And later sold the technology to North Korea if I remember correctly.
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