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Chinese students in US tell of 'chilling' interrogations and deportations

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Re: Chinese students in US tell of 'chilling' interrogations and deportations

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I dont even know where to start with this article.

They added in the wif of racism with the covid tie in just to make it sensational.

We do have a score board for this you know:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Chinese_spy_cases_in_t...

VS

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010–2012_killing_of_CIA_sourc...

Also note, that Americans were getting their shit taken and copied at the border forever. The border being a no rights zone has been an issue that nerds have been vocal about since the days of slashdot... Dont act shocked cause your Chinese and its happening, we do it to our own people too.

Re: Chinese students in US tell of 'chilling' interrogations and deportations

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https://www.voanews.com/amp/us-beijing-aim-to-boost-number-o...

These days, only about 700 American students are studying at Chinese universities, down from a peak of close to 25,000 a decade ago, while there are nearly 300,000 Chinese students at U.S. schools.

To add just a bit of context.

I’m sure that foreign students have no restrictions placed on entry to the country, places visited nor are there any restrictions on topics studied or on publication or research.

https://www.voanews.com/amp/british-documentary-alleges-chin...

Re: Chinese students in US tell of 'chilling' interrogations and deportations

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It's surprising how few Chinese people study in America. With a population 1/14th of America, Australia has 150,000 Chinese students.

The US entry refusals should be familiar fare to Chinese citizens though, as their Govt employs stochastic enforcement all the time, including for censorship and as part of trade disputes.

It sucks for the individuals, but this really isn't about them, it's about the CCP and it's ongoing campaign of industrial espionage and global surveillance.

It is likely a number of 'students' were also part of the diaspora surveillance network, routinely reporting back about the behaviour of overseas Chinese citizens and especially minorities.

Re: Chinese students in US tell of 'chilling' interrogations and deportations

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It's surprising how few Chinese people study in America. With a population 1/14th of America, Australia has 150,000 Chinese students. The US entry refusals should be familiar fare to Chinese citizens though, as their Govt employs stochastic enforcement all the time, including for censorship and as part of trade disputes. It sucks for the individuals, but this really isn't about them, it's about the CCP and it's ongoi…

Australia is full of CCPs, especially corrupted officials, Canada and Australia are popular destinations because it is first world country with immigration policy. (especially their kids don't study well and are spoiled, it is not a problem for Australia apparently)

Actually most students go to US are amongst the best students from China, either top students or really hardworking students, and most of them will be excellent engineers and scientists, if US is pushing them away, it is probably good for China.

Re: Chinese students in US tell of 'chilling' interrogations and deportations

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post #2

I dont even know where to start with this article. They added in the wif of racism with the covid tie in just to make it sensational. We do have a score board for this you know: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Chinese_spy_cases_in_t... VS https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010–2012_killing_of_CIA_sourc... Also note, that Americans were getting their shit taken and copied at the border forever. The border being a no…

There was a time when I was always getting stopped and interrogated at customs coming into Seattle from Beijing. No one else on the Hainan flight I arrived on mind you, just me…I was the only white guy in the crowd of passengers who looked mostly Chinese also. Pretty sure they were profiling me, maybe they were just more suspicious of Americans?

Re: Chinese students in US tell of 'chilling' interrogations and deportations

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https://www.voanews.com/amp/us-beijing-aim-to-boost-number-o... These days, only about 700 American students are studying at Chinese universities, down from a peak of close to 25,000 a decade ago, while there are nearly 300,000 Chinese students at U.S. schools. To add just a bit of context. I’m sure that foreign students have no restrictions placed on entry to the country, places visited nor are there any restriction…

I wonder how much of that is due to Covid, but I remember some stat like the number of people learning Chinese since 2008 was down at least 50% even before Covid, and that includes people studying in their home country.

Re: Chinese students in US tell of 'chilling' interrogations and deportations

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It's surprising how few Chinese people study in America. With a population 1/14th of America, Australia has 150,000 Chinese students. The US entry refusals should be familiar fare to Chinese citizens though, as their Govt employs stochastic enforcement all the time, including for censorship and as part of trade disputes. It sucks for the individuals, but this really isn't about them, it's about the CCP and it's ongoi…

Australia is full of CCPs, especially corrupted officials, Canada and Australia are popular destinations because it is first world country with immigration policy. (especially their kids don't study well and are spoiled, it is not a problem for Australia apparently) Actually most students go to US are amongst the best students from China, either top students or really hardworking students, and most of them will be ex…

Foreign students pay 2-3x as much as Australians do to study in Australia. Allowing rich Chinese children to study abroad contributes a lot to Australia's economy and those high fees subsidise everyone else which allows keeping local tuition low, which is why Australia is so open to them.
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