Risk of myocarditis following sequential COVID-19 vaccinations by age and sex [pdf]

Post by mrhands556 » Mon, Dec 27, 2021, 2:30 AM UTC

blip54321 wrote: post #26

hnuser847 wrote: post #17

Wow, I just got the Pfizer booster a few days ago and I'm an under-40 male who has previously had pericarditis... I was worried about the risk being greater than the reward for my age group but didn't have the age-stratified data to prove it. Kind of regretting it now, especially since I only got it at the urging of my wife. I just needlessly increased the odds of a giving myself a heart issue for absolutely no reaso…

To be fair, we're still talking about 1:10,000 odds. You're much more likely to, for example, be hit by a car in the next year, even if you're in a high-risk category. I tend to run numbers here and compare to events I'm worried or not worried about. I can live with 1:10,000 risks.

Post by mrhands556 » Mon, Dec 27, 2021, 2:32 AM UTC

ozdave wrote: post #12

simonsarris wrote: post #2

This paper essentially argues that the risk of myocarditis in under-40 males getting 2 shots is greater (perhaps much greater) than the risk of getting it from COVID. There have been similar studies before, but none (that I saw) broken down by age and sex like this. It reads: > Despite more myocarditis events occurring in older persons, the risk following COVID-19 vaccination was largely restricted to younger males a…

Thanks for the explanation. > argues that the risk of myocarditis in under-40 males getting 2 shots is greater (perhaps much greater) than the risk of getting it from COVID The way I read this is the risk of myocarditis is greater with vaccination, but this does not tell me about the overall risk of serious illness/death from Covid for vaxed VS unvaxed. So - risk of myocarditis goes up - but is it still overall safer…

Post by sudosysgen » Mon, Dec 27, 2021, 2:34 AM UTC

mrhands556 wrote: post #31

blip54321 wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To be fair, we're still talking about 1:10,000 odds. You're much more likely to, for example, be hit by a car in the next year, even if you're in a high-risk category. I tend to run numbers here and compare to events I'm worried or not worried about. I can live with 1:10,000 risks.

CDC best guess mortality risk for his age group is 500/1000000 if he gets an infection. I would say risk probably not outweighing the benefit if it doesn’t prevent infection outright. Source: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/planning-scena...

Post by sudosysgen » Mon, Dec 27, 2021, 2:35 AM UTC

mrhands556 wrote: post #33

ozdave wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks for the explanation. > argues that the risk of myocarditis in under-40 males getting 2 shots is greater (perhaps much greater) than the risk of getting it from COVID The way I read this is the risk of myocarditis is greater with vaccination, but this does not tell me about the overall risk of serious illness/death from Covid for vaxed VS unvaxed. So - risk of myocarditis goes up - but is it still overall safer…

IFR for males under 40 is 500/1000000 or .05% if they’re infected. Source: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/planning-scena...

Post by sudosysgen » Mon, Dec 27, 2021, 2:38 AM UTC

TehShrike wrote: post #29

kuhewa wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, not unless Pfizer was a typo and you meant Moderna.

After only looking at the charts at the end of the PDF, they seem to indicate that the 3rd dose (booster) of the Pfizer vaccine raises your myocarditis risk about as much as the 2nd dose of Moderna's.