The increased risk of myocarditis is confined to ModeRNA 2nd dose, not Pfizer or AZ
Risk of myocarditis following sequential COVID-19 vaccinations by age and sex [pdf]
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Re: Risk of myocarditis following sequential COVID-19 vaccinations by age and sex [pdf]
#22Wow, I just got the Pfizer booster a few days ago and I'm an under-40 male who has previously had pericarditis... I was worried about the risk being greater than the reward for my age group but didn't have the age-stratified data to prove it. Kind of regretting it now, especially since I only got it at the urging of my wife. I just needlessly increased the odds of a giving myself a heart issue for absolutely no reaso…
No, not unless Pfizer was a typo and you meant Moderna.
Re: Risk of myocarditis following sequential COVID-19 vaccinations by age and sex [pdf]
#23Wow, I just got the Pfizer booster a few days ago and I'm an under-40 male who has previously had pericarditis... I was worried about the risk being greater than the reward for my age group but didn't have the age-stratified data to prove it. Kind of regretting it now, especially since I only got it at the urging of my wife. I just needlessly increased the odds of a giving myself a heart issue for absolutely no reaso…
Your overall odds of death from covid went down. And as I understand it, myocarditis often goes away on its own or can be treated at home.
Re: Risk of myocarditis following sequential COVID-19 vaccinations by age and sex [pdf]
#24An animal study found that aspiration during injection could reduce the risk of vaccine induced myocarditis. It hasn't been reproduced in humans but this seems like something worthy of further research. https://academic.oup.com/cid/advance-article/doi/10.1093/cid...
Can you define 'aspiration' in this case? The link is rather dense to the layperson.
Aspiration is pulling back the syringe plunger prior to injection to ensure the needle tip is in the correct tissue and not in a vein. This isn't typically done for COVID-19 vaccinations, and there is some controversy in medical circles about whether this should be a standard procedure.
Re: Risk of myocarditis following sequential COVID-19 vaccinations by age and sex [pdf]
#25Wow, I just got the Pfizer booster a few days ago and I'm an under-40 male who has previously had pericarditis... I was worried about the risk being greater than the reward for my age group but didn't have the age-stratified data to prove it. Kind of regretting it now, especially since I only got it at the urging of my wife. I just needlessly increased the odds of a giving myself a heart issue for absolutely no reaso…
Legit question--would you have higher chances of surviving COVID-19 had you gotten it without the vaccine?
Re: Risk of myocarditis following sequential COVID-19 vaccinations by age and sex [pdf]
#26Wow, I just got the Pfizer booster a few days ago and I'm an under-40 male who has previously had pericarditis... I was worried about the risk being greater than the reward for my age group but didn't have the age-stratified data to prove it. Kind of regretting it now, especially since I only got it at the urging of my wife. I just needlessly increased the odds of a giving myself a heart issue for absolutely no reaso…
To be fair, we're still talking about 1:10,000 odds. You're much more likely to, for example, be hit by a car in the next year, even if you're in a high-risk category.
I tend to run numbers here and compare to events I'm worried or not worried about. I can live with 1:10,000 risks.
Re: Risk of myocarditis following sequential COVID-19 vaccinations by age and sex [pdf]
#27Earlier quoted context omitted.
The spike protein RNA vaccine saturates the body causing an inflammatory response especial so in certain muscles that use lipids (vaccine contains lipid as a transport mechanism) as a primary source of energy such as the heart muscle. A good interview of this is [1] Joe Rogan Experience episode #1747 - Dr. Peter A. McCullough [1] https://open.spotify.com/episode/0aZte37vtFTkYT7b0b04Qz Edit: [2] The CDCs myocarditis p…
The 30 micrograms of ribonucleic acid in an mRNA vaccine dose get folded into protein and make their way into the lymph nodes in your armpit. They do not “saturate the body”. Joe Rogan interviews are not a reliable source of medical information. Rogan is a COVID conspiracy theorist of the “just asking questions” variety. For anyone unconvinced about this, and values diversity of opinions in their media diet, the rece…
Very defensive response.
I am not making any claims that are unsupported by the CDC's own data.
Just because a response is rare doesn't make it any less true.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/my...
Re: Risk of myocarditis following sequential COVID-19 vaccinations by age and sex [pdf]
#28This paper essentially argues that the risk of myocarditis in under-40 males getting 2 shots is greater (perhaps much greater) than the risk of getting it from COVID. There have been similar studies before, but none (that I saw) broken down by age and sex like this. It reads: > Despite more myocarditis events occurring in older persons, the risk following COVID-19 vaccination was largely restricted to younger males a…
> This guy made a graph of their data, which makes it a little more clear: As another commenter as has pointed out, the graph in question in included in the PDF version of this preprint (which you can see here: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.12.02.21267156v... ). I want to add: "this guy" is Vinay Prasad, a professor of oncology at UCSF and an incredibly prescient thinker through the COVID-19 pandemic,…
Is r/lockdownskepticism also skeptical of vaccination?
And do you think covid is worse than or same as the flu?
Re: Risk of myocarditis following sequential COVID-19 vaccinations by age and sex [pdf]
#29Wow, I just got the Pfizer booster a few days ago and I'm an under-40 male who has previously had pericarditis... I was worried about the risk being greater than the reward for my age group but didn't have the age-stratified data to prove it. Kind of regretting it now, especially since I only got it at the urging of my wife. I just needlessly increased the odds of a giving myself a heart issue for absolutely no reaso…
No, not unless Pfizer was a typo and you meant Moderna.
After only looking at the charts at the end of the PDF, they seem to indicate that the 3rd dose (booster) of the Pfizer vaccine raises your myocarditis risk about as much as the 2nd dose of Moderna's.
Re: Risk of myocarditis following sequential COVID-19 vaccinations by age and sex [pdf]
#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
The spike protein RNA vaccine saturates the body causing an inflammatory response especial so in certain muscles that use lipids (vaccine contains lipid as a transport mechanism) as a primary source of energy such as the heart muscle. A good interview of this is [1] Joe Rogan Experience episode #1747 - Dr. Peter A. McCullough [1] https://open.spotify.com/episode/0aZte37vtFTkYT7b0b04Qz Edit: [2] The CDCs myocarditis p…
It saturates the body to such a degree that the "worst" vaccine in the "worst" age group creates an extra 30 cases of myocarditis per million people? Edit: 100 per million, thanks for the correction. 0.01% of people.
Technically, 100.
That's still very safe, but it's good to be accurate.