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My Life as an Undocumented Immigrant
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Re: My Life as an Undocumented Immigrant
#32I convinced myself that if I worked enough, if I achieved enough, I would be rewarded with citizenship. I felt I could earn it. Has that ever happened? Reading this gives me a sense of cognitive dissonance between the US as a place 'where anyone can make it' and the US as a legalistic bureaucracy. [Edit to clarify]
The "anyone can make it" part is true: lots of LEGAL immigrants and their children have done far better than their peers in their home countries (facetious example: Obama, but there are many many unknown people like that). For all it faults, America remains the most meritocratic country in the world. Discouraging ILLEGAL immigration should not lower America's standing in that respect.
This needs a citation. America-is-great chest pounding aside, the only reputable reference I remember seeing about this was from the Economist, who claimed that the correlation between your wealth and that of your parents is stronger in the US than in many European countries. So it seems that, at least measured in that way, the US is not a particularly good meritocracy but rather a class society.
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#34quick google on statute of limitations: http://codes.ohio.gov/orc/2901.13 6 or 20 years for most crimes, except murders. Immigration violations seems to not have the statute of limitations, just like the most heinous crimes.
Wouldn't that be because immigration violations are ongoing events?
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#35If anyone is interested in investing in a project to legally provide work opportunities for undocumented immigrants who were brought to the US as children like this journalist, you can send me a message via gmail and I'll pass it on to a law professor I know who is working on this issue with various legal and business leaders in the Bay Area. Serious inquiries only please, this project is likely to require a signific…
Working on this issue how? Trying to find/provide work for these people or simply trying to change the law. There's a big difference between the two and knowingly employing an undocumented worker (illegal alien) is a felony.
I find your comment offensive. EDIT: I see that you have added some context to clarify below. Likewise, I would like to clarify that this effort is intended to be wholly within the law, and the aim is to put legal resources in place for lobbying and/or litigation. I'm not mentioning the academic persons in question because it's a large effort that will probably take several years and which has not yet been presented for discussion in a law review or as a public proposal, and I don't want to misspeak about what stage the project is at.
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#36Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think it is great that he wrote about his story. The way the law is written he'll have to leave the country unless someone pulls some major strings for him. I'm a little more surprised about everything that is included in the article however. Specifically the following bit: By this time, Peter, who still works at The Post, had become part of management as the paper's director of newsroom training and professional d…
You assume that the employer is responsible for instantly firing any employee who is found to be undocumented. This isn't actually the case. When this happens, a legal process is set in motion -- even foreigners are permitted due process under US law. I'd also be willing to bet that his employer will continue to employ the writer even if he's deported to the Philippines, and that may have been one of the things that…
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#37Terrific story. I can't understand how even the most heartless xenophobe could possibly support the deportation of a someone who graduated from a US university. Utterly self-defeating from a social and an economic standpoint.
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#38quick google on statute of limitations: http://codes.ohio.gov/orc/2901.13 6 or 20 years for most crimes, except murders. Immigration violations seems to not have the statute of limitations, just like the most heinous crimes.
Wouldn't that be because immigration violations are ongoing events?
Edit: IANAL. You want to be very wary of any blanket statements on immigration law in particular, which is more complicated than almost any other field besides tax law. Like, I can show you decisions where the Chief Justice of the Supreme court simply makes inaccurate statements about the law by mistake. And others that seem to contradict what I've said above (but where the contradiction is in dicta rather than being part of the holding).
Re: My Life as an Undocumented Immigrant
#39Even if I weren't open to letting educated members of society earn a legal green card, I think this would've changed my mind. The inability to obtain US citizenship even though I was attending a consecutively #1 rated program on the continent, at one of the best schools in the country really dimmed my own hopes. I remember wanting to apply for an internship at MIT Lincoln labs for anti-ballistic missile defense, and…
Have you tried Canada? We're kind of like the US, but better.
Re: My Life as an Undocumented Immigrant
#40Earlier quoted context omitted.
Working on this issue how? Trying to find/provide work for these people or simply trying to change the law. There's a big difference between the two and knowingly employing an undocumented worker (illegal alien) is a felony.
It's illegal, but it's not a felony. Huge difference. Hiring undocumented workers, when detected (which rarely happens, particularly for small businesses), is usually punished by a civil penalty (i.e., a cash fine).
It all depends on which law or section of law specifically you end up breaking. A first offense for knowingly hiring an undocumented worker will be met with fines and the fines increase through the third offense. The government however has been increasingly using criminal penalties. Hiring more then ten will also much more often result in criminal penalties including prison time. Aiding and abetting, hiding from detection or encouraging aliens to enter the country is a felony unless I misunderstand the penalties in Title 8 and I know for a fact that's what one client we did an audit for is being charged with. Knowingly accepting fraudulent documents on the Form I-9 is punishable by up to five years in prison due to the certification statement in section two.
Detection rates of undocumented workers are mostly low due to employers not caring or not understanding what their requirements are under the law and lax enforcement by ICE/DHS. ICE however is stepping up investigations and just sent out another 1000 notices of intent to businesses of all sizes. We specialize in Form I-9 compliance and we constantly detect undocumented workers as part of that work. Companies that are enrolled in E-Verify are preventing many undocumented workers from even applying for jobs. Both the Senate and House are looking at bills that would make E-Verify mandatory for all employers which would make the detection rates a lot higher than they are now. Rumor has it that Senate Dems will kill these types of bills unless the Dream act passes but we'll see how long Reid can keep that up.