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My Life as an Undocumented Immigrant

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Re: My Life as an Undocumented Immigrant

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I convinced myself that if I worked enough, if I achieved enough, I would be rewarded with citizenship. I felt I could earn it. Has that ever happened? Reading this gives me a sense of cognitive dissonance between the US as a place 'where anyone can make it' and the US as a legalistic bureaucracy. [Edit to clarify]

Back in the day they'd do that and give you land on top of it, as long as you were willing to go out West.

Re: My Life as an Undocumented Immigrant

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Even if I weren't open to letting educated members of society earn a legal green card, I think this would've changed my mind. The inability to obtain US citizenship even though I was attending a consecutively #1 rated program on the continent, at one of the best schools in the country really dimmed my own hopes. I remember wanting to apply for an internship at MIT Lincoln labs for anti-ballistic missile defense, and…

Have you tried Canada? We're kind of like the US, but better.

I heard Canada is changing it's official slogan: "We're like America, but with moose."

Re: My Life as an Undocumented Immigrant

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It's really courageous of him to come ahead with his story. I really hope he gets to stay in the country.

I think it is great that he wrote about his story. The way the law is written he'll have to leave the country unless someone pulls some major strings for him. I'm a little more surprised about everything that is included in the article however. Specifically the following bit:

By this time, Peter, who still works at The Post, had become part of management as the paper's director of newsroom training and professional development. One afternoon in late October, we walked a couple of blocks to Lafayette Square, across from the White House. Over some 20 minutes, sitting on a bench, I told him everything: the Social Security card, the driver's license, Pat and Rich, my family.

This indicates that Peter Perl was a manager at the Post and knowingly continued to employee an undocumented worker opening the Post and himself to liability including possible criminal penalties.

Re: My Life as an Undocumented Immigrant

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post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you tried Canada? We're kind of like the US, but better.

I heard Canada is changing it's official slogan: "We're like America, but with moose."

"We're like America, but with gays and healthcare and poutine and a thirst for hockey only blood can quench."

Re: My Life as an Undocumented Immigrant

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post #9

If anyone is interested in investing in a project to legally provide work opportunities for undocumented immigrants who were brought to the US as children like this journalist, you can send me a message via gmail and I'll pass it on to a law professor I know who is working on this issue with various legal and business leaders in the Bay Area. Serious inquiries only please, this project is likely to require a signific…

Working on this issue how? Trying to find/provide work for these people or simply trying to change the law. There's a big difference between the two and knowingly employing an undocumented worker (illegal alien) is a felony.

It's illegal, but it's not a felony. Huge difference. Hiring undocumented workers, when detected (which rarely happens, particularly for small businesses), is usually punished by a civil penalty (i.e., a cash fine).

Re: My Life as an Undocumented Immigrant

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post #13

It's really courageous of him to come ahead with his story. I really hope he gets to stay in the country.

I think it is great that he wrote about his story. The way the law is written he'll have to leave the country unless someone pulls some major strings for him. I'm a little more surprised about everything that is included in the article however. Specifically the following bit: By this time, Peter, who still works at The Post, had become part of management as the paper's director of newsroom training and professional d…

The article indicates everyone gave their permission for using their name. Sometimes you stand up for people even though it might harm you personally.

Re: My Life as an Undocumented Immigrant

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Even if I weren't open to letting educated members of society earn a legal green card, I think this would've changed my mind. The inability to obtain US citizenship even though I was attending a consecutively #1 rated program on the continent, at one of the best schools in the country really dimmed my own hopes. I remember wanting to apply for an internship at MIT Lincoln labs for anti-ballistic missile defense, and…

It's also awful on the permanent residency front. I lived in the US for almost a decade now, graduated from top 5 school, currently a graduate student in n.1 US school in my field, while working at a top firm full-time. Green card application got put on permanent hold for a technicality (same thing for hundreds of my fellow international coworkers), and so it will likely take me anywhere between another 5-10 years to get one. And I'm fully documented up to my ears, I imagine there's even more horseshit for illegals.

No prospect of ever leaving my employer unless I'm willing to go back to the other side of the pond...

Re: My Life as an Undocumented Immigrant

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post #7

I convinced myself that if I worked enough, if I achieved enough, I would be rewarded with citizenship. I felt I could earn it. Has that ever happened? Reading this gives me a sense of cognitive dissonance between the US as a place 'where anyone can make it' and the US as a legalistic bureaucracy. [Edit to clarify]

The "anyone can make it" part is true: lots of LEGAL immigrants and their children have done far better than their peers in their home countries (facetious example: Obama, but there are many many unknown people like that).

For all it faults, America remains the most meritocratic country in the world. Discouraging ILLEGAL immigration should not lower America's standing in that respect.

Re: My Life as an Undocumented Immigrant

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Terrific story. I can't understand how even the most heartless xenophobe could possibly support the deportation of a someone who graduated from a US university. Utterly self-defeating from a social and an economic standpoint.

Crime has consequences, no matter how nice/good/smart you are. Do the paperwork, follow the process, come in legally - like my wife did.
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