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My Life as an Undocumented Immigrant

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Re: My Life as an Undocumented Immigrant

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post #13

It's really courageous of him to come ahead with his story. I really hope he gets to stay in the country.

I think it is great that he wrote about his story. The way the law is written he'll have to leave the country unless someone pulls some major strings for him. I'm a little more surprised about everything that is included in the article however. Specifically the following bit: By this time, Peter, who still works at The Post, had become part of management as the paper's director of newsroom training and professional d…

You assume that the employer is responsible for instantly firing any employee who is found to be undocumented. This isn't actually the case. When this happens, a legal process is set in motion -- even foreigners are permitted due process under US law.

I'd also be willing to bet that his employer will continue to employ the writer even if he's deported to the Philippines, and that may have been one of the things that informed his decision to write this piece.

Re: My Life as an Undocumented Immigrant

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post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Working on this issue how? Trying to find/provide work for these people or simply trying to change the law. There's a big difference between the two and knowingly employing an undocumented worker (illegal alien) is a felony.

It's illegal, but it's not a felony. Huge difference. Hiring undocumented workers, when detected (which rarely happens, particularly for small businesses), is usually punished by a civil penalty (i.e., a cash fine).

Doing what the anigbrowl is referring to is certainly a felony...

Re: My Life as an Undocumented Immigrant

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Terrific story. I can't understand how even the most heartless xenophobe could possibly support the deportation of a someone who graduated from a US university. Utterly self-defeating from a social and an economic standpoint.

Crime has consequences, no matter how nice/good/smart you are. Do the paperwork, follow the process, come in legally - like my wife did.

The point (which you're clearly missing) is that this shouldn't be a crime. Our economy and our society loses in a very tangible way because of our draconian and ultimately childish attitude toward immigration.

Re: My Life as an Undocumented Immigrant

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He's the main story on Huffpo right now: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/06/22/jose-antonio-vargas...

I doubt this will change many people's minds about immigration though. The "what part of illegal don't you understand" crowd is also the "fuck you, i've got mine" crowd, and they've already got theirs.

Re: My Life as an Undocumented Immigrant

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quick google on statute of limitations: http://codes.ohio.gov/orc/2901.13 6 or 20 years for most crimes, except murders. Immigration violations seems to not have the statute of limitations, just like the most heinous crimes.

That's Ohio, so there's very little immigration related law there.

Re: My Life as an Undocumented Immigrant

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Terrific story. I can't understand how even the most heartless xenophobe could possibly support the deportation of a someone who graduated from a US university. Utterly self-defeating from a social and an economic standpoint.

Crime has consequences, no matter how nice/good/smart you are. Do the paperwork, follow the process, come in legally - like my wife did.

  "come in legally"
He was 12, and didn't have a choice at that time. Its not that clear-cut.

Re: My Life as an Undocumented Immigrant

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quick google on statute of limitations: http://codes.ohio.gov/orc/2901.13 6 or 20 years for most crimes, except murders. Immigration violations seems to not have the statute of limitations, just like the most heinous crimes.

Wouldn't that be because immigration violations are ongoing events?

Re: My Life as an Undocumented Immigrant

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I have no beef with this guy who was basically forced into breaking the law before he could have responsibility for his actions.

But overall I just feel that the compassion about immigration is misplaced. I don't understand why all the pro-immigration people say "look at these poor undocumented immigrants -- we should make life better for them." I think the people we should have compassion for are the people who are trying to do things the right way but running into headaches. Those are the people we should make things easier for, not the people who are willing to break the law to get what they want.

I really don't think we want a situation where breaking the law is the best way to get ahead. If I was waiting to get into the US, I would be pretty upset to see all the benefits going to the people who cut in line.

I don't understand why it's so controversial among the pro-immigration crowd to say that people shouldn't come here illegally. Naturally more leniency should be extended to children.

EDIT: It is stories like this that I feel we should be solving with immigration reform: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2685261

Re: My Life as an Undocumented Immigrant

#29

Terrific story. I can't understand how even the most heartless xenophobe could possibly support the deportation of a someone who graduated from a US university. Utterly self-defeating from a social and an economic standpoint.

Crime has consequences, no matter how nice/good/smart you are. Do the paperwork, follow the process, come in legally - like my wife did.

He was 12 when he was put on the plane, 16ish when he tried to get a driver's license. A Minor. He can't easily go back. He can't legally stay. He's dammned either way, so he makes the best of it. Sooner or later, it's going to catch up with him.

The adult who put him in the situation is not in the country. At least one of the others responsible is dead.

Re: My Life as an Undocumented Immigrant

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Terrific story. I can't understand how even the most heartless xenophobe could possibly support the deportation of a someone who graduated from a US university. Utterly self-defeating from a social and an economic standpoint.

Crime has consequences, no matter how nice/good/smart you are. Do the paperwork, follow the process, come in legally - like my wife did.

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