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Firefox 84.0

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Re: Firefox 84.0

#31
Huge update for users on new Apple Silicon Macs:

> Native support for macOS devices built with Apple Silicon CPUs brings dramatic performance improvements over the non-native build that was shipped in Firefox 83: Firefox launches over 2.5 times faster and web apps are now twice as responsive

You will need to do a browser reboot after updating to get the ARM64 version instead of the Rosetta version[1]

[1] https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/upgrading-new-version-f...

Re: Firefox 84.0

#32
post #24

Mozilla FAQ: > Will switching to a different browser allow me to use Flash? >No. Adobe and other browsers will also end support Flash at the end of 2020. Even if you install an older version of Firefox, the Flash plugin itself will stop loading Flash content after January 12, 2021. See Adobe’s Flash Player End of Life information page for more details Adobe: > Since Adobe will no longer be supporting Flash Player aft…

Doesn't concern me. Flash has been on an EOL track for a long time now, and I'm actually pretty happy they're being this aggressive about killing it, as otherwise it could linger on indefinitely, causing security bugs across the web.

Why do you find it disturbing?

Re: Firefox 84.0

#33

I hope they fixed the one thing that has been preventing me from switching to FF as my daily driver. The one thing that I can find a few "fixes" for, but none seem to work for me. Starting up to a frozen window, and then having to open new frozen windows, until eventually a non-frozen window opens. Then having to go clear a bunch of zombie processes out of Task Manager. Happens almost daily, and drives me crazy. /ran…

Is there a bug report for this? This sounds like a crazy issue that could not affect more than a handful of users with extremely particular setups.

I've found a few "fixes". From recent memory, disabling extensions, and clearing out my profile from appdata. I'll give this version a shot and hope for the best.

Re: Firefox 84.0

#34

I love Firefox, I use it everyday, I can't imagine using a browser without Tree Style Tab, or all the things that I can do in about:config. At the same time, I can't shake off the dreadful feeling that it will eventually die one day. The market share keeps falling year by year. What is the most realistic future for Firefox?

I can't understand why they still didn't put a "Support Mozilla" prompt anywhere.

Re: Firefox 84.0

#35

I love Firefox, I use it everyday, I can't imagine using a browser without Tree Style Tab, or all the things that I can do in about:config. At the same time, I can't shake off the dreadful feeling that it will eventually die one day. The market share keeps falling year by year. What is the most realistic future for Firefox?

It's being outpaced by other browsers in a rapidly expanding field, not falling in usage. Safari and Edge are defaults on iOS, MacOS, and Windows, and Chrome is the default on Android. I imagine we're primarily seeing the effects platform capture everywhere else.

Defaults are so powerful. There's a damn good reason Google pays Apple $8-12 billion every year to be the default search engine on iOS.

https://www.businessinsider.com/google-apple-search-deal-doj...

Re: Firefox 84.0

#36

“macOS users running Cylance antivirus software may see their Firefox installation get corrupted due to being erroneously flagged as malware.” I run Firefox Nightly on my work mac (with Cylance) and have been seeing this. Luckily IT have happily whitelisted it and reported back to Cylance, but still slightly weird that a major application would be flagged like this.

Cylance is insanely sensitive. In my experience running internal penetration tests, it's been one of the few pieces of security software that's genuinely slowed me down and been a nuisance.

That said, once you figure out its weak spots, it's as useless as all the others, but it doesn't surprise me it'd flag Firefox.

Re: Firefox 84.0

#37
post #9

And for developers: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Firefox/Rel... The biggest change from my perspective is "Firefox now ensures that localhost URLs — such as http://localhost/ and http://dev.localhost/ — refer to the local host's loopback interface (e.g. http://127.0.0.1 ). As a result, resources loaded from localhost are now assumed to have been delivered securely (see Secure contexts), and also w…

>This is great for local development.

Not just. There is a niche for mixed web/native apps whereby the page is loaded from the web, but interacts (at least in part) with a locally hosted web-server.

Re: Firefox 84.0

#38
post #24

Mozilla FAQ: > Will switching to a different browser allow me to use Flash? >No. Adobe and other browsers will also end support Flash at the end of 2020. Even if you install an older version of Firefox, the Flash plugin itself will stop loading Flash content after January 12, 2021. See Adobe’s Flash Player End of Life information page for more details Adobe: > Since Adobe will no longer be supporting Flash Player aft…

I find it a reason to celebrate, flash was a blight on the web for far too long

Re: Firefox 84.0

#39
> WebRender rolls out to MacOS Big Sur, Windows devices with Intel Gen 6 GPUs, and Intel laptops running Windows 7 and 8.

Does WebRender imply major speed up?

Re: Firefox 84.0

#40
post #2

Notable changes are that Apple Silicon support is now stable, and that this is the final release of Firefox to support Adobe Flash.

I had no idea they even still supported Flash?! I thought they changed their plugin API so many times that it would have been unsupported many years ago.

The extension API changed (web extensions). The plugin API is still NPAPI. There was a project to replace the API with the one that chrome uses, which has better sandboxing, but eventually they abandoned that project.
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