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All References to Climate Change Have Been Deleted from the White House Website

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Re: All References to Climate Change Have Been Deleted from the White House Website

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Post by mempko »

Coincoin wrote: post #21
vowelless wrote: post #4

I think the headline is a little wrong or maybe I am misreading it. It's not the case that someone went to the website and deleted climate change references; but rather, there is a new web site which doesn't have any references. As the article itself says : > To reiterate: It is normal that the site is completely new; it is notable that climate change is not mentioned on any one of Trump's new pages

Title should have been: "Things from previous administration we agree about is not on new administration web site."

No, title should have been "Trump and his dipshit administration don't give two shits about global warming, our children be damned" (edit: Didn't realize there are this many trump supporters here) (edit2: People who think only "rational" emotionless discussion is appropriate here are living a fantasy. People don't think their way into movement.)

Re: All References to Climate Change Have Been Deleted from the White House Website

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Post by newsat13 »

burkaman wrote: post #16
newsat13 wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This has nothing to do with Trump or the election though. Mankind is screwing up in general and having some text on whitehouse site is not going to change it. Look at the startup scene. It's all about convenience (ignoring the massive amount of wasted resources), social media is all about endless narcissism and then we have everything handed out free by mining your data. All this is not going to change. All this mind…

Really, Rick Perry and Scott Pruitt have nothing to do with Trump or the election? "eliminating harmful and unnecessary policies such as the Climate Action Plan" and "reviving America’s coal industry" have nothing to do with Trump and the election? https://www.whitehouse.gov/america-first-energy

If anything it just worsens the climate faster than the current rate. Climate is going down regardless of who is in power.

Re: All References to Climate Change Have Been Deleted from the White House Website

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Post by rmxt »

jmaygarden wrote: post #22
rmxt wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Urging everyone to approach issues rationally is fine, but how can you excuse the inherent irrationality ("isn't a situation where ... did anything inappropriate") in denying that climate change/global warming is happening? (I am not saying it is or is not anthropogenic -- as far as I know, that is less settled.)

However, nothing about climate change was actually deleted. The website was replaced wholesale. What is rational about considering the act of not posting new climate change content on a new website within hours of the inauguration of a new president inappropriate?

Not sure I understand what you are asking. Could you rephrase it?

I think it is irrational that one can develop energy policy, including promoting the increased use of non-renewable resources like coal and gas, without including anything explicitly acknowledging the roles that their extraction and use may have in climate change or environmental damage.

Re: All References to Climate Change Have Been Deleted from the White House Website

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Post by burkaman »

iaw wrote: post #28
burkaman wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The act of replacing the website is normal, but the content of the replacement is malicious.

How do you define malicious in this context? I see the content (from summaries, I haven't read it) as 100% self-consistent for the Trump administration.

It is, and the Trump administration's position on the climate is malicious, in that it will cause harm to the majority of humanity.

Re: All References to Climate Change Have Been Deleted from the White House Website

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Post by LyndsySimon »

masklinn wrote: post #26
woofyman wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Trump is anti wind power. https://www.google.com/amp/s/thinkprogress.org/amp/p/bd4acf3...

And his cabinet is by and large anti-everything-which-is-not-fossil-fuels.

I was of the understanding that he was pro-nuclear.

Re: All References to Climate Change Have Been Deleted from the White House Website

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Post by takeda »

masklinn wrote: post #25
epaulson wrote: post #13

Whitehouse.gov was archived to https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/ at noon. It looks like they've done a reasonable job with redirects from old URLs to the archives sites. (Hopefully forever) Not quite the mantra of 'Cool URLs don't change', but a reasonable compromise for making something that the non-technical public can understand.

Some of the documents are missing though, the cabinet's exit memos are gone: https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/administration/cabinet/...

Maybe they were still restoring the data at that time? Few links that I clicked on that page worked for me.

Re: All References to Climate Change Have Been Deleted from the White House Website

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Post by knowaveragejoe »

LyndsySimon wrote: post #35
masklinn wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And his cabinet is by and large anti-everything-which-is-not-fossil-fuels.

I was of the understanding that he was pro-nuclear.

That'd be great. Maybe he should put it in his energy plan.

Re: All References to Climate Change Have Been Deleted from the White House Website

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Post by helthanatos »

LyndsySimon wrote: post #35
masklinn wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And his cabinet is by and large anti-everything-which-is-not-fossil-fuels.

I was of the understanding that he was pro-nuclear.

Nuclear is very good for the environment as long as it's done right. Besides the initial building costs and maintenance, it is a much better deal than most other ways.
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