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All References to Climate Change Have Been Deleted from the White House Website

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Re: All References to Climate Change Have Been Deleted from the White House Website

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Post by iaw »

jandrese wrote: post #3

I said it on election day and I'll say it again. Sorry kids, we fucked up. Making billionaires even richer is more important than keeping the Earth livable. Trump doesn't care, he'll be dead before the ice caps finish melting and we start seeing just how badly we're screwed. All that matters in the big race is winning, and winning is measured in dollars.

I downvoted your comment because I don't feel like it has anything to do with the linked story or adds anything to the thread.

Rather than complain from the top of the "I told you so" pedestal to people that generally agree with you, I urge you to approach the Trump presidency with rationalism. This isn't a situation where the Trump administration did anything inappropriate, by treating it as if it were you appear dogmatic.

Re: All References to Climate Change Have Been Deleted from the White House Website

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Post by newsat13 »

jandrese wrote: post #3

I said it on election day and I'll say it again. Sorry kids, we fucked up. Making billionaires even richer is more important than keeping the Earth livable. Trump doesn't care, he'll be dead before the ice caps finish melting and we start seeing just how badly we're screwed. All that matters in the big race is winning, and winning is measured in dollars.

This has nothing to do with Trump or the election though. Mankind is screwing up in general and having some text on whitehouse site is not going to change it.

Look at the startup scene. It's all about convenience (ignoring the massive amount of wasted resources), social media is all about endless narcissism and then we have everything handed out free by mining your data. All this is not going to change. All this mindless self-gratifying churn is what worsens the climate.

Re: All References to Climate Change Have Been Deleted from the White House Website

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Post by epaulson »

Whitehouse.gov was archived to https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/ at noon. It looks like they've done a reasonable job with redirects from old URLs to the archives sites. (Hopefully forever)

Not quite the mantra of 'Cool URLs don't change', but a reasonable compromise for making something that the non-technical public can understand.

Re: All References to Climate Change Have Been Deleted from the White House Website

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Post by rmxt »

iaw wrote: post #11
jandrese wrote: post #3

I said it on election day and I'll say it again. Sorry kids, we fucked up. Making billionaires even richer is more important than keeping the Earth livable. Trump doesn't care, he'll be dead before the ice caps finish melting and we start seeing just how badly we're screwed. All that matters in the big race is winning, and winning is measured in dollars.

I downvoted your comment because I don't feel like it has anything to do with the linked story or adds anything to the thread. Rather than complain from the top of the "I told you so" pedestal to people that generally agree with you, I urge you to approach the Trump presidency with rationalism. This isn't a situation where the Trump administration did anything inappropriate, by treating it as if it were you appear do…

Urging everyone to approach issues rationally is fine, but how can you excuse the inherent irrationality ("isn't a situation where ... did anything inappropriate") in denying that climate change/global warming is happening? (I am not saying it is or is not anthropogenic -- as far as I know, that is less settled.)

Re: All References to Climate Change Have Been Deleted from the White House Website

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Post by burkaman »

newsat13 wrote: post #12
jandrese wrote: post #3

I said it on election day and I'll say it again. Sorry kids, we fucked up. Making billionaires even richer is more important than keeping the Earth livable. Trump doesn't care, he'll be dead before the ice caps finish melting and we start seeing just how badly we're screwed. All that matters in the big race is winning, and winning is measured in dollars.

This has nothing to do with Trump or the election though. Mankind is screwing up in general and having some text on whitehouse site is not going to change it. Look at the startup scene. It's all about convenience (ignoring the massive amount of wasted resources), social media is all about endless narcissism and then we have everything handed out free by mining your data. All this is not going to change. All this mind…

Really, Rick Perry and Scott Pruitt have nothing to do with Trump or the election? "eliminating harmful and unnecessary policies such as the Climate Action Plan" and "reviving America’s coal industry" have nothing to do with Trump and the election?

https://www.whitehouse.gov/america-first-energy

Re: All References to Climate Change Have Been Deleted from the White House Website

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Post by burkaman »

iaw wrote: post #7
vowelless wrote: post #4

I think the headline is a little wrong or maybe I am misreading it. It's not the case that someone went to the website and deleted climate change references; but rather, there is a new web site which doesn't have any references. As the article itself says : > To reiterate: It is normal that the site is completely new; it is notable that climate change is not mentioned on any one of Trump's new pages

Thanks for pointing this out, I missed it on my first read-through. The framing of this article implies that the Trump administration scrubbed the references first thing rather than roll out their new version which had no references to climate change. I'm as ready as half the country to despise this administration but I'll save my outrage for things that are actually malicious.

The act of replacing the website is normal, but the content of the replacement is malicious.

Re: All References to Climate Change Have Been Deleted from the White House Website

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Post by colept »

As someone who lives in South Florida it's bad enough we have to deal with Rick Scott denying rising sea tides in his own back yard.

Now we're up against a POTUS who denies the disaster we will face in twenty years yet owns property in the afflicted area (North Miami Beach - Trump Towers). As I watch the city raise the sidewalks and roads by a foot I'm astounded. I've lived here for three years and since I got here every major roadway has been under construction - installing pumps to return flood water back to the bay. When I first arrived, you couldn't cross the street without steeping ankle deep into water and it's getting better. But pumps were only installed in key areas that affected the Mayor's and his friends' commercial properties.

I cannot buy property here because to do so would be a huge mistake considering what is now beach front will be underwater unless something is done about it.

Re: All References to Climate Change Have Been Deleted from the White House Website

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Post by woofyman »

jandrese wrote: post #3

I said it on election day and I'll say it again. Sorry kids, we fucked up. Making billionaires even richer is more important than keeping the Earth livable. Trump doesn't care, he'll be dead before the ice caps finish melting and we start seeing just how badly we're screwed. All that matters in the big race is winning, and winning is measured in dollars.

Climate change will never affect Trump or his family personally nor his billionaire friends. Hence its a non issue to him.

Re: All References to Climate Change Have Been Deleted from the White House Website

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Post by knowaveragejoe »

lloyd-christmas wrote: post #10
azeirah wrote: post #6

I did some digging. $ wget --execute="robots = off" --mirror --convert-links --no-parent www.whitehouse.gov $ grep -rl climate the-press-office/2011/09/20/president-obama-participate-linkedin-town-hall-mountain-view-california- the-press-office/2011/09/21/remarks-president-obama-and-president-clinton-clinton-global-initiative the-press-office/2011/02/28/presidential-proclamation-50th-anniversary-peace-corps joiningfo…

Sadly, it's directly mentioned on this page. https://www.whitehouse.gov/america-first-energy

It's a shame that there's not a single mention of renewable, solar, wind, or nuclear, but coal and oil are mentioned multiple times each.
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