Plans for an electric car charging point in every new home in Europe

Post by [deleted] » Sun, Oct 16, 2016, 3:12 PM UTC

dsfyu404ed wrote: post #27

brudgers wrote: post #23

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Any jurisdiction that requires off street parking to be associated with buildings (which is nearly universal in the US) could be said to be similarly subsidizing the auto industry. To me, the reason to consider requiring a car charging station is not really related to cars but to the history of after the fact electrical installations which to be safe must be done right and doing it right takes time (to hire qualified…

>To me, the reason to consider requiring a car charging station is not really related to cars but to the history of after the fact electrical installations which to be safe must be done right and doing it right takes time (to hire qualified installers) and money (to hire said installers and purchase electrical gear) and that human nature is to avoid those things and install systems that trade those costs for safety (…

Post by marklyon » Sun, Oct 16, 2016, 3:27 PM UTC

Post by icebraining » Sun, Oct 16, 2016, 3:35 PM UTC

dattaway wrote: post #21

ewr24 wrote: post #3

Does anyone have link to original sources? Most houses in EU already have "charging point", it is called electric plug. 25A/380V plugs are pretty common: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Industrial_and_multiphase_powe... But electric grids in western countries (Germany, UK) are absolutely not ready for such thing. German power grid would collapse if Czechia and Poland started enforcing their safety regulations. This reg…

Not ready? Most electric clothes dryers, heaters, and air conditioners already use 4500 watts each. I'm sure the grid may notice an increase, the utilities will charge for the extra consumption, and upgrade accordingly. The common 200 ampere service in homes should handle another 30 amps...

Post by _ph_ » Sun, Oct 16, 2016, 3:39 PM UTC

ewr24 wrote: post #26

_ph_ wrote: post #19

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What makes you think the German grid would not be up to charging electrical cars? In most places it is in an excellent state and as electrical consumption overall is sinking (getting rid of incandescent bulbs and wasteful electric devices helped there). On average, an electrical car would need about 10kWh/day to recharge, based on the average mileage. This does not put high loads on the electrical networks, especiall…

My informations from Germany are 6 years, but it probably still applies: - electricity is produced by wind farms in north, and transfered to industrial south. German grid does not have enough capacity and has to transfer through Czech grid. That is often pushing it to edge of safety limit. Safety breakers are not possible for political reasons (Poland installed something like that). - Building new high-voltage power…

Post by grantlmiller » Sun, Oct 16, 2016, 4:11 PM UTC