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Google's Antigravity bait and switch

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Re: Google's Antigravity bait and switch

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Post by bootlooped »

mark_l_watson wrote: post #274

The app over-write thing is not good. It took me 90 minutes to get the new chat Antigravity, the new Antigravity IDE, and Antigravity CLI installed and one task done on each. My 1 month subscription of Gemini Ultra is finished in three days and I revert to their $20/month plan. Assuming that daily and weekly quotas are OK for casual use, I will probably use AntiGravity CLI most of the time. Off topic, but maybe inter…

> Assuming that daily and weekly quotas are OK for casual use, I will probably use AntiGravity CLI most of the time.

I would not assume that for 3.1 pro, but maybe the limits for flash 3.5 will be fine, and the model will be good enough for hobby stuff.

Re: Google's Antigravity bait and switch

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Post by themafia »

Sevii wrote: post #2

How did Google blow their AI lead? Why is Google the 2nd or 3rd tier player in the AI coding market? Why can't GCP supplant AWS? Because google can't help but constantly shoot its customers and itself in the foot.

> Why can't GCP supplant AWS?

Both GCP and AWS are just relabeled corporate dogfood. It turns out most people have operations that share more traits with retail than with big data.

Re: Google's Antigravity bait and switch

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riskassessment wrote: post #46

I was surprised people were so willing to jump to closed source IDEs just for access to coding agents. The trade-off you pay for tight integration between the IDE and the coding agent is lock-in because the barrier to switching IDEs is nontrivial. Your coding environment stands a lower chance of disruption when you use an open source IDE with a CLI agent. Yes it's slightly annoying to separate the agent from the IDE…

The profession has grown to a point where most people doing the work don't actually maintain it as a hobby. It seems like it's a purely commercial endeavor for them, so things that are traditionally sacrosanct, have become quite fungible.

Re: Google's Antigravity bait and switch

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Post by rossjudson »

IX-103 wrote: post #278
jim33442 wrote: post #270

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All I know is internally they were recommending people use Gemini CLI until they switched to recommending Jetski/Windsurf CLI. Even before that, I could tell Jetski was way ahead, but still people from Gemini CLI were trying to convince me to use it.

Jetski/Antigravity is a better piece of software. The Gemini CLI codebase looks like someone tried to vibe-code a Claude code clone in nodeJS, as it's simply not maintainable. That being said, until recently Gemini CLI was better. It had support for persistent policies on what code could run without asking and had good extension hooks to allow you write extensions that influence policy (to perform complex logic like…

Well, the first thing the "new" antigravity did was f^&* up all of my existing projects by replicating them (with one replica per conversation within each project). That's really bad.

I now have 45+ projects pointing at a the same 5-7 folders (the actual projects). Can I delete those extra projects? The warnings are sure telling me not to.

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Post by kirtivr »

shwaj wrote: post #276
kirtivr wrote: post #194

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I was a regular Claude Code user but Codex eventually won me over due to a few factors: 1. Less interaction required over long horizon tasks. 2. You actually get the amount of tokens they advertize. It's been an open secret on r/Claude that over the last several months, due to supposed "bugs" in Claude, users on the Max plan have seen over 50% of their tokens used on a single prompt. Super annoying. 3. Really strong…

I’ve heard about that “open secret” and I don’t understand. What’s the incentive for Anthropic to pump up the token usage on their top end plan? Is it to move Pro users up to Max? That’s the only plausible idea I can think of.

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Post by voidhorse »

saberience wrote: post #191
tveita wrote: post #174

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> who put the Transformer into LLMs? Google? > who invented neural networks People like Geoffrey Hinton, who was notably at Google Brain from 2013 to 2023? The people who say Google was ahead were paying attention long before you were.

Google didn’t invent neural networks, neural networks existed before Google was founded.

This. Neural Nets have existed conceptually since the 1950s. They weren't realized materially and practically until later, but it's astonishing how ignorant people are of the history of AI.

Re: Google's Antigravity bait and switch

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Post by aweb »

dolmen wrote: post #164
qiine wrote: post #115

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Sometimes I wonder if they even realize they have users...

Jules is still alive. https://jules.google.com

I trie to use it, it's actually really bad IMO. It's very slow and often completely misunderstands my requirements
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