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Google's Antigravity bait and switch

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Re: Google's Antigravity bait and switch

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Post by popinman322 »

coder543 wrote: post #128
kllrnohj wrote: post #91

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Closed source IDEs are if anything the norm: Visual Studio, Android Studio, XCode, IntelliJ, CLion, PyCharm, etc... Even in the "fancy text editor" category things like Sublime were always popular enough.

Closed source? IntelliJ: https://github.com/JetBrains/intellij-community PyCharm: https://github.com/JetBrains/intellij-community/tree/master/... Android Studio: https://android.googlesource.com/platform/tools/adt/idea/+/r... Yes, they might offer extended proprietary editions/plugins in addition , but the IDEs themselves are open source.

Oh, this is great!

I've filed bugs with JetBrains before and had them take months getting to my ticket, often with multiple hand-offs between team members; being able to provide a potential fix should make the process much faster.

Re: Google's Antigravity bait and switch

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Post by 20k »

RHSeeger wrote: post #163
shmel wrote: post #160

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Do we still need an IDE though? I am very happy with Claude Code last 6 months. I can totally see why Google got rid of everything, but the dialog box. Perhaps it was stupid to do that without warning, but ultimately this is the future.

I find this comment mind-boggling; in an honest confusion, not insulting way. I use Claude Code (and desktop) on a daily basis; but I can't even imagine doing anything complex without being able to see the code.

There seems two kinds of developers

1. Developers that create the mess and don't have to deal with the consequences

2. Developers that fix the mess and have to deal with the consequences

I've noticed that the former category is significantly more pro AI than the latter

Re: Google's Antigravity bait and switch

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Post by dgacmu »

danielbln wrote: post #124
dgacmu wrote: post #97

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Oh, but you can only install the new antigravity CLI by first installing and authenticating via the IDE. Will they make it work headless before the June deadline when they turn off gemini-cli? I guess we'll see... [Edited to add: danielbln below is correct, this appears to just be stale documentation for antigravity-cli, it can be used completely headless now.]

Just today I installed the CLI version of antigravity (agy) and have been using it as a headless subagent from within Claude, so uh this works today?

Right above the CLI download link on that page, there's a warning icon with "Authenticate with Antigravity or Antigravity IDE before using the CLI."

Re: Google's Antigravity bait and switch

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Post by tveita »

embedding-shape wrote: post #14
HDThoreaun wrote: post #10

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Google invented transformers. They had LLMs before openAI existed.

Great, tell me again who put the Transformer into LLMs? Also, if we're going backwards, who invented neural networks, does that mean that person also then "had LLMs before OpenAI existed"?

> who put the Transformer into LLMs?

Google?

> who invented neural networks

People like Geoffrey Hinton, who was notably at Google Brain from 2013 to 2023?

The people who say Google was ahead were paying attention long before you were.

Re: Google's Antigravity bait and switch

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Post by danielbln »

dgacmu wrote: post #173
danielbln wrote: post #124

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Just today I installed the CLI version of antigravity (agy) and have been using it as a headless subagent from within Claude, so uh this works today?

Right above the CLI download link on that page, there's a warning icon with "Authenticate with Antigravity or Antigravity IDE before using the CLI."

Ok, I guess this is outdated then because I did what I said I did.

Re: Google's Antigravity bait and switch

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Post by dgacmu »

danielbln wrote: post #176
dgacmu wrote: post #173

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Right above the CLI download link on that page, there's a warning icon with "Authenticate with Antigravity or Antigravity IDE before using the CLI."

Ok, I guess this is outdated then because I did what I said I did.

Ah!

You're right, I just re-tested on my server and was able to get it to work now. Thank you! Does appear to just be stale documentation.

Re: Google's Antigravity bait and switch

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Post by Jare »

I can't even remember the brand name because as soon as start with Ant... the next letter that comes naturally is an h. So I guess I'm safe.

Oddly enough, I reach out to the Gemini web chatbox frequently, even though the heavy duty stuff goes to Claude.

Re: Google's Antigravity bait and switch

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Post by doubled112 »

verisimi wrote: post #132
donbox wrote: post #87

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The internet changed for me the day the Reader died. Actually, in hindsight, for me personally, internet died when the Reader died.

Yep. My aspirations about how the internet was going to enable a brighter, better future for people, were instantly transformed, and instead we saw the power of tech corporations acting in their own interests. How naive I was.

Google shutting down Reader did encourage me to learn to host my own services though, which I am pretty thankful for.
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