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Re: Steve Wozniak used to tip from printed sheets of $2 bills

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Post by WXLCKNO »

hueyluey wrote: post #218
sandworm101 wrote: post #174

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Giving a false ID to law enfordement? That is a crime. Giving a forged ID to the secret service, the people in charge of detecting counterfeiting? That's just idiocy. Misspelling department of defense doesnt make the ID ok any more than printing a tiny lol in the corner of your fake dollar bills. (Also, falsely claiming a relationship with the military is downright dishonerable.)

What do you mean by "dishonerable" here? Is this an instance of how Americans love the military so much that it's difficult to understand for people from other countries (where being a military isn't different from being a shop owner, or carpenter or doctor or whatever)?

I think that's what he means too. Other people are talking about sacrifice.

It's a job, like any other job. People do it because they want to get paid and military worship is ridiculous.

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Post by alar44 »

bowsamic wrote: post #256
dereg wrote: post #169

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I can’t help but shake my head at most of these comments. There was a time when we celebrated anecdotes like this here on Hacker News. I’ve seen this story circulated many times but this is the first time I’ve seen this sort of reaction. These aren’t rose colored glasses, anyone can look up threads of old in which we cheered such defiance toward authority. People are frothing to frame this story with 2023 glasses and…

We’ve moved past that naivety to a place of higher social consciousness

I fucking hope this is satirical.

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Post by lelandfe »

j-bos wrote: post #150
akerl_ wrote: post #121

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You don’t need to be mirandized when you’re arrested. That’s a tv show trope. Miranda warnings are more frequently given as part of questioning, which may start on the scene of the arrest but often occurs later.

IANAL You also don't need to Mirandized at all. Miranda is only needed to use any (direct product of) evidence or starments given by suspect during the interaction in court.

As some additional color, Miranda rights have been aggressively weakened over the last decade, and the current Supreme Court majority appears to really dislike them on their whole.

Berghuis v. Thompkins in 2010[0] made it so that the suspect has to explicitly invoke their own right to remain silent – simply remaining silent is not enough. And just last year in Vega v. Tekoh[1] the Court decided that it is not a violation of your civil rights if you are not Mirandized, and you therefore cannot sue over it.

Together, this basically means that its incumbent on every single citizen to be aware of their Miranda rights, and to know the magic words to say. And you should really, really keep track of if your rights are read to you while you're in custody – police will certainly try to admit un-Mirandized evidence, even after all of that.

> Those magic words, legal experts told USA TODAY, must be affirmatively and explicitly stated as, for example, "I want my lawyer and I want to remain silent" or "I want my lawyer and am invoking my right to remain silent." And then you should stay silent.

[0] http://archive.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/20...

[1] https://archive.ph/kvKaB

Re: Steve Wozniak used to tip from printed sheets of $2 bills

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Post by sneak »

lupire wrote: post #280
lesquivemeau wrote: post #165

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I really like this image: It's eight days older than me, but the quality is as good as it gets. Most of the photos I have from my early years are quite low-res because they were taken with early digital cameras. Hope these people are doing well!

How do you know the age?

There's a date in the filename.

That said, I think it may be misdated, as I think the image is from closer to 2007/8, as I think I shot it on a 40D which only came out in Aug 2007. I've gone through 3 or 4 generations of photo library management software since then and the metadata may have gotten mangled.

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Post by prmph »

kfajdsl wrote: post #239
JuniorBalleg wrote: post #134

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When an entire population is far more homogeneous than most modern Western states, the heightened social trust and cohesion permits this kind of harmless fun (among many other benefits). It's one of those sacrifices made to accommodate diversity which is almost impossible to quantify and existentially unsettling to even try.

Maybe this struck a nerve because I'm an American born-and-raised PoC, but frankly I believe this is a bad opinion that is often pushed by racists (even if the idea itself isn't necessarily inherently racist). Heightened social trust in people of one's own ethnicity isn't a fact of life, it's just racism. It's what causes PoC to be profiled by law enforcement, on average have worse outcomes for the same crimes in the…

This is a very good comment, and just about exactly what I was about to say.

Re: Steve Wozniak used to tip from printed sheets of $2 bills

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Post by lupire »

082349872349872 wrote: post #19
helsontaveras18 wrote: post #8

I do not understand how the story ended. And that was a very odd story… he is an edgy guy.

It ended on (a) a yet more unbelievable note than everything up until that point, and (b) noting that lots of money changed hands that day, but that all the financial details are ancillary to the story, which is what was important. I don't know if I'd say "edgy", so much as a hacker — and there have been hackers in all generations, eg https://books.google.ch/books?id=V3ByEAAAQBAJ&pg=PA575&lpg=P...

He's showing off (or lying) that he's so rich they he can throw away $7500 as a joke because he's already committed to giving his daughter $10M+.

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Post by jabart »

As a kid I was in the store with my parents and we were in line for the register. Some guy turned around and looked at me and said "Hey kid, ever seen a $2 bill before?" I said no, and he ripped off a $2 from a pad and handed it to me. To this day I have this $2 bill because I thought it was fake. This is the midwest, no way was this Woz but now I feel that this might not be a fake $2 bill anymore.

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Post by lupire »

implements wrote: post #235
chrismarlow9 wrote: post #136

Wow there are some angry people in these comments.

Well, I guess Woz was being a “prankster” - and from Wikipedia: “A practical joke, or prank, is a mischievous trick played on someone, generally causing the victim to experience embarrassment, perplexity, confusion, or discomfort” . I can see the playful side of it, but people and places where pranks are not generally well received would be federal agents and casinos - so from the ‘victims’ point of view I expect the…

Why does a casino, a legalized scam operation, deserve respect?

When you are a retired billionaire, you have freedom to explore.

See also Penn Jillete's airport "security" protest, though he wasn't retired or a billionaire , but was willing to spend his time/money/privilege fighting for our rights.

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Post by fsloth »

alephnerd wrote: post #223
fsloth wrote: post #131

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Maybe it’s my nordic background where people value independence (perhaps patholohically so). In general if a husband had any moderately dangerous hobbies it would sound a bit weird where I’m from that they stopped them just because they got married and had kids. And if they had apprehended Woz he would probably had a lawyer to bail him out and smooth things over. So coming from these two directions the argument that…

You guys only value independence for Western Europeans. Alligevel vedtager I en "Ghettopakke", der lovligt legaliserede at splitte migrantfamilier fra hinanden. I er lige så dårlige som resten af andre hvide mennesker, jeg har mødt. [0] - https://euromedmonitor.org/en/article/4895/Denmark:-Ghetto-P... [1] - https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2020/10/un-human-rig...

I'm not sure why you are venting, but if you are having a hard time in your life I'm sorry you are going through that.

Now, our discussion was about Woz's zany antics, but I still have to clarify some geographical things:

1. Western Europe[0] and nordics[1] are two disjoint sets of countries

2. Of 28M nordic people only roughly 1/5 is Danish. And, there is very little political cohesion between the countries, except by national parliaments copying established successfull schemes from each other when it suits them individually

Personally, I am a Finn and had to google translate the bit of Danish in your message - I don't really follow Danish politics but I don't think it's fair to think every Dane would support this bill. This is actually the first time I read about this.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_geoscheme_for_E...

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordic_countries

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Post by usrusr »

OJFord wrote: post #113
dsomers wrote: post #82

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Exactly this. As late as the 2001 I could cross into the US from Canada with as little as my birth certificate, which I often did. That was just a cotton blended paper with tattered edges with some writing, and the crest of my province printed on it. There wasn’t even a photo on it! It was closer to writing, ‘I’m daniel plz let me in’ on a napkin, than it is to my passport of today with its photo, barcode, and RFID c…

As little as a birth certificate? You can still cross EU borders with just a driving licence, or government issued ID where they have them. (In practice the vast majority using planes and boats at least probably do take a passport, I always did from the UK, but in theory you don't need one, so if you weren't planning to go elsewhere you wouldn't even need to get a passport.)

In the boarding line of a flight between EU destinations (well, Schengen destinations), I usually see about one couple clinging to their passports. They stand out as if they were dressed up in victorian age safari gear.
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