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Re: Steve Wozniak used to tip from printed sheets of $2 bills

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post #71

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I don’t understand why you presume woz had a responsibility to ”take a care of his wife”?

In most western marriages, people agree to take care of each other, frequently explicitly as part of their ceremony. Source: attended 100+ weddings as a photographer.

Maybe it’s my nordic background where people value independence (perhaps patholohically so). In general if a husband had any moderately dangerous hobbies it would sound a bit weird where I’m from that they stopped them just because they got married and had kids.

And if they had apprehended Woz he would probably had a lawyer to bail him out and smooth things over. So coming from these two directions the argument that fooling around was somehow traitorous behaviour towards his wife sounded really odd.

Re: Steve Wozniak used to tip from printed sheets of $2 bills

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Related US Mint page for $2 bill sheets: https://catalog.usmint.gov/paper-currency/uncut-currency/?&p... Basically he tells story in a way that average person assume he’s printing fake bills, when in reality he’s just cutting and binding sets of uncut bills into a notepad. Lying to a federal investigator though is a federal crime and one that’s frequently resulted in prison sentences. Worth noting that Jobs & Woz fir…

Why on earth do they even sell those sheets? It'll just cause confusion.

$2 bills in general cause enough confusion that a few souvenirs are unlikely to make much difference on the margin.

Re: Steve Wozniak used to tip from printed sheets of $2 bills

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You can still buy uncut sheets https://catalog.usmint.gov/paper-currency/uncut-currency/

I mean, it’s a neat idea, but … what do you do with them? Framing one as a picture would seem to invite a burglary, and as a source of individual notes it’s much cheaper to go to a bank. Edit: Not intended as a critical question, btw - I was just wondering how you’d use them.

Giftwrap a pendrive with a fraction of Bitcoin?

Re: Steve Wozniak used to tip from printed sheets of $2 bills

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It was a different era, people were more cool and playful back then.

Not to mention not looking like a minority was a fairly strong shield back then and even is today.

When an entire population is far more homogeneous than most modern Western states, the heightened social trust and cohesion permits this kind of harmless fun (among many other benefits). It's one of those sacrifices made to accommodate diversity which is almost impossible to quantify and existentially unsettling to even try.

Re: Steve Wozniak used to tip from printed sheets of $2 bills

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post #36

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Isn't it pretty irresponsible to commit a felony while you have a daughter and wife to take care of? I find his nonchalant delivery quite jarring. I don't understand what's going through his head here.

To be convicted the prosecution needs to prove mens rea (providing a fake ID isn't strict liability), his thinking of why he chose to do this would make prosecution a fair bit harder (but obviously not impossible).

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1028

His quote reads like a confession...

Re: Steve Wozniak used to tip from printed sheets of $2 bills

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Lots of timid, humorless folks having trouble imagining not being a sheep and always coloring inside the lines. I for one wish there were more real people around, living life for liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Like we were intended to live.

And I, for one, am glad that society as a whole doesn't behave this way. Imagine how obnoxious it would be if every other social interaction was somebody messing with you. Wonderful.

Instead we have someone in every other social interaction trying to sell or upsell something.

Re: Steve Wozniak used to tip from printed sheets of $2 bills

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Can one buy uncut sheets of euro banknotes?

Haven't heard of any, but when it was first introduced, the Euro was fairly easy to copy.

There was a man in Italy nicknamed il Professore who was notorious for producing them in bulk while not being particularly conspicuous about it.

According to an anecdote from one of his family members when a cashier tried to confirm whether the 20€ banknote he gave her was legitimate he said "lady, it costs me 18€ to make one of these, so I don't even bother".

Re: Steve Wozniak used to tip from printed sheets of $2 bills

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Agreed. I found this whole story made him sound very unlikable. Like he considers everybody to be below him to the point of being playthings. Kind of gross.

Everyone should play with everyone else and have a good time.

And if the person you're playing with isn't having a good time as a result? If you're the guy at the head of the queue dicking around, while behind you are the people waiting to get on with their lives?

Re: Steve Wozniak used to tip from printed sheets of $2 bills

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> [The Secret Service agent] asked my for some picture ID. I have some fake photo ID's that a friend made for me years before, when we could make realistic photo ID's from our computers. Almost nobody else could do this because printers weren't good enough. But I had an expensive early generation dye sublimation printer and made some fake ID's for fun. I had one favorite fake ID that I'd used for almost every airplan…

> It probably amounted to a real crime.

I'm not a lawyer, I have no idea how criminal law in the USA works, but why would this be a crime? He didn't fake a Department of Defence ID, he created an ID for a fictional Department of Defiance, it may look similar, it may appear as a "real" ID because it's not just a piece of paper, but it's about as real an ID as a gym membership card.

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