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Re: Roku tells customers it is unable to strike a deal with YouTube

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Post by mfer »

jimt1234 wrote: post #238

A few weeks after all this beef started, Google emailed me with an offer for a free "Chromecast with Google TV" device. I thought it was weird, as the email (and the offer) was completely unsolicited. The email mentioned something about thanking me for being a YouTube-TV customer. I'm sure Google knows I watch YouTube-TV from my Roku-enabled TV, so I figured it was related to the beef. I just though it was weird at f…

Just remember, Google is the company that has surveillance on people more than the others. And they use what the capture.

https://www.amazon.com/Age-Surveillance-Capitalism-Future-Fr...

Re: Roku tells customers it is unable to strike a deal with YouTube

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Post by croutonwagon »

AceJohnny2 wrote: post #283
dash488 wrote: post #264

Roku and AndroidTV aside, has someone come up with an opensource alternative to either of these spammy services? Im in neither camp as I have had both functionalities preinstalled on a TV. Recently with my newer Android TV it is riddled with ADs and is noisy on my network with telemetry data, even when not in use. When I just want to turn it on and play PS4, it takes time to load the latest on Amazon Prime, Netflix a…

Kodi/XBMC? Plex? Unfortunately that's only for local media. Obviously all the commercial streaming services have DRM that make them incompatible with open-source.

Plex has its own telemetry and doesn’t really make devices per-se. it’s an App, including on Roku.

My hous is basically all rokus at this point. But I do keep the isolated on their own net and behind pi-holes.

I’d love an opensource alternative that can do all the things Roku does. Netflix, Hulu (though I don’t have it), prime, or Plex etc.

Sure with something like atomictoolkit you can do it all in Plex, to a degree. But I even use YouTube for things like guitar lessons/song learning etc.

To be fair. I can probably do that with those options. Roku was simple enough that I can work around. I should probably do some better research on alternatives.

Re: Roku tells customers it is unable to strike a deal with YouTube

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Post by asiachick »

inerte wrote: post #265
notyourwork wrote: post #254

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's on the content creator, not YouTube right?

With the current system, yes. YouTube could do something where the content creator specifies the sponsored part (if it's not straight up merchandising and product placement) and paying subscribers could have that skipped. Anyway, I chimed in to say YouTube Premium to me is worth a lot. I watch more YouTube because of it, it's better, better for the kids, less annoying, the whole thing is fantastically better. Every t…

I’d use YouTube premium if it didn’t make things actually worse! Without premium I can watch anything anywhere. with premium I get nasty “you’re using this on another device” messages that stop playback and cause other issues

Re: Roku tells customers it is unable to strike a deal with YouTube

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Post by avhon1 »

meowface wrote: post #260
pkulak wrote: post #253

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Though, you still get all the in-video promos, even when paying. That ticks me off a bit, but it's not too bad.

Doesn't work for Roku/Chromecast, but: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/sponsorblock-for-y...

SponsorBlock is great! It's available on a bunch of platforms besides Chrome: https://sponsor.ajay.app/

Re: Roku tells customers it is unable to strike a deal with YouTube

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Post by addicted »

cosmotic wrote: post #243
jrockway wrote: post #223

Why does Roku even need to work with YouTube to put YouTube on the device? It's a web page that can be opened in any browser. For that reason, I have to assume that Roku wants to extract money from Google here, and as with net neutrality, they're right to not pay.

YouTube makes ad revenue from Roku users, Roku wants a cut.

That’s so f’ing messed up. I paid extra for Roku because I thought they made their money by selling me a product that I own as opposed to one that owns me.

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Post by Tagbert »

alistairSH wrote: post #289
Wistar wrote: post #276

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why does their advertising feel so disruptive? Is it because it feels like something just broke for a moment? It seems that an ad will often be inserted right at a key moment. Maybe it is that I feel like I have to constantly hold the remote, ready to "skip" the rest of the ads, except now they are getting less and less skippable. Also, lately, they are running two ads instead of one. It is so annoying I have been wa…

I don’t know how people can watch ads. We went cable-free a few years ago, so now it’s all Netflix or other pay-to-stream services. When I watch YouTube, as soon as an ad begins, I usually click away. Same for freemium content on Amazon Video. Can’t stand it.

Because not all content is on Netflix. Some times you have to deal with an ad funded service.

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Post by fomine3 »

cheeze wrote: post #216
jefftk wrote: post #182

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A raspberry pi 4 will, and the accessories are relatively cheap: https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/build-the-ultimate-4k-home-...

Will it? I didn't know that rpi had any HW support for AV1. Last I checked, there wasn't any player capable of doing HDR10 HEVC either, but maybe that has changed. I like the rpi but I don't think its as capable as people are making it out to be.

Anyway AV1 for streaming isn't a thing for now because Qualcomm refuses it.

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Post by readflaggedcomm »

jimt1234 wrote: post #238

A few weeks after all this beef started, Google emailed me with an offer for a free "Chromecast with Google TV" device. I thought it was weird, as the email (and the offer) was completely unsolicited. The email mentioned something about thanking me for being a YouTube-TV customer. I'm sure Google knows I watch YouTube-TV from my Roku-enabled TV, so I figured it was related to the beef. I just though it was weird at f…

Is the Amazon Prime app on Chromecast as good as Roku's?

Re: Roku tells customers it is unable to strike a deal with YouTube

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Post by skipPiGuy »

Wistar wrote: post #276
johnvaluk wrote: post #244

I've used Roku in various incarnations (box, TV) since it was released and was excited when the official YouTube app was finally available. But lately, it's been painful to watch YouTube due to the constant and disruptive advertising. Part of me is looking forward to the app being pulled from Roku, since it's so much like the cable TV experience I thought I was escaping. I don't feel this way about the other premium…

Why does their advertising feel so disruptive? Is it because it feels like something just broke for a moment? It seems that an ad will often be inserted right at a key moment. Maybe it is that I feel like I have to constantly hold the remote, ready to "skip" the rest of the ads, except now they are getting less and less skippable. Also, lately, they are running two ads instead of one. It is so annoying I have been wa…

I made an AI powered skip app to automatically skip the ads for me. Conveniently enough, it also detects Netflix/Hulu "Skip Intro" button, "Skip Re-Cap" button, and maybe even the "Are You Still Watching" button.

Best thing I ever made. Literally cannot fall asleep to YouTube without it.

Just threw it out on GitHub if anyone is interested: https://github.com/SkipSentry/Skip-Pi

Re: Roku tells customers it is unable to strike a deal with YouTube

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Post by pipeline_peak »

You can barely buy a TV without smart capability these days. I find it weird how Roku is even recognized as a platform and receive this much media coverage.

They haven’t had a unique product in like 10 years. They are the Yelp of the antiquated stream box world

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