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Re: Roku tells customers it is unable to strike a deal with YouTube

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Post by Jensson »

If a company is spreading lies about you then there is no reason to continue working with that company. I'm not saying Roku did that, but if they did then why would Google stay with them and try to argue instead of just leaving them?

Edit: I am specifically referring to the fact that Google claims Roku did this:

> Roku has once again chosen to make unproductive and baseless claims rather than try to work constructively with us. Since we haven’t been able to continue our conversations in good faith, our partnership for all new Roku devices will unfortunately end on December 9.

Re: Roku tells customers it is unable to strike a deal with YouTube

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Post by dr_dshiv »

Jensson wrote: post #221

If a company is spreading lies about you then there is no reason to continue working with that company. I'm not saying Roku did that, but if they did then why would Google stay with them and try to argue instead of just leaving them? Edit: I am specifically referring to the fact that Google claims Roku did this: > Roku has once again chosen to make unproductive and baseless claims rather than try to work constructive…

Because it won’t look good in the trust-busting lawsuit. Monopolies kill competition like this. Is this different? Maybe. Doesn’t look good.

Re: Roku tells customers it is unable to strike a deal with YouTube

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Post by jrockway »

Why does Roku even need to work with YouTube to put YouTube on the device? It's a web page that can be opened in any browser.

For that reason, I have to assume that Roku wants to extract money from Google here, and as with net neutrality, they're right to not pay.

Re: Roku tells customers it is unable to strike a deal with YouTube

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Post by jumelles »

dpweb wrote: post #101
015a wrote: post #40

This whole situation really feels like Google has their head stuck up their ass. People are just as likely to leave Roku, as they are to leave YouTube TV. Their subscriber numbers can't be strong enough to justify such idiotic behavior. To me, this sounds like a middle manager gone rogue, and no one higher up has stepped in yet and said "Ok, you shot your shot, but Roku called your bluff, you've taken this way too fa…

No, I can easily drop YouTube TV. Roku is built into each of my 3 TVs. I'm glad this was about Youtube TV, if it ws the Youtube app I'd have a problem.

It IS about the regular YouTube app.

Re: Roku tells customers it is unable to strike a deal with YouTube

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Post by samtheprogram »

jeffbee wrote: post #142
samtheprogram wrote: post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or LG WebOS is not a big enough market for Google to care about the experience to put their foot down, at that point they’d rather be on the device (and controlling other devices where it counts). This is all hearsay though and it’s unclear if Google even made such demands to Roku.

LG has 11% of the global TV market and its home electronics division revenues are 20 times larger than Roku's.

In most markets, LG and Roku are quite competitive and within a few percentage points of one another. In South America, a less mature but fast growing market, LG has a significant lead over Roku with 23% market share. But in North America, Roku is the market leader with 37% market share, to LG's 4%.

Globally, Roku controls 30% (down from 33% in 2020).

https://www.protocol.com/roku-global-expansion-conviva-data

"Home electronics" covers a lot more than streaming, and even a portion of that revenue could account for users with an LG TV who use a Roku device instead of WebOS. It's not a good comparison.

Re: Roku tells customers it is unable to strike a deal with YouTube

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Post by notJim »

CydeWeys wrote: post #224

Time to get a new TV then. It's been time for awhile but this is gonna be the inciting incident. And definitely not getting a Roku TV as my new one.

There's no need to get a new TV, unless your Roku TV lacks HDMI ports. Mine has plenty.

I've been thinking of moving away from Roku anyway though, because they seem underpowered. Most of the apps on mine are a bit laggy, whereas my AppleTV is smooth. I've even noticed jittery playback on high-quality 4k content, even though my tv is ostensibly a 4k tv.

Re: Roku tells customers it is unable to strike a deal with YouTube

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Post by heavymark »

CydeWeys wrote: post #224

Time to get a new TV then. It's been time for awhile but this is gonna be the inciting incident. And definitely not getting a Roku TV as my new one.

Don't think it means you need a new tv. Just got an Apple TV box, or a Google one, or whichever you prefer since it seems your not stuck on using roku tv's service.
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