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Re: Roku tells customers it is unable to strike a deal with YouTube

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> Is it worth paying for YouTube? That depends on how much not seeing that 'constant and disruptive advertising' is worth to you.

Though, you still get all the in-video promos, even when paying. That ticks me off a bit, but it's not too bad.

Promotion is baked into so many videos on youtube - just as it has been in television and film for decades. I'm not sure whether it's getting worse, or if it has always been this bad and I just didn't notice it as much.

Re: Roku tells customers it is unable to strike a deal with YouTube

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That's on the content creator, not YouTube right?

With the current system, yes. YouTube could do something where the content creator specifies the sponsored part (if it's not straight up merchandising and product placement) and paying subscribers could have that skipped. Anyway, I chimed in to say YouTube Premium to me is worth a lot. I watch more YouTube because of it, it's better, better for the kids, less annoying, the whole thing is fantastically better. Every t…

> YouTube could do something where the content creator specifies the sponsored part (if it's not straight up merchandising and product placement) and paying subscribers could have that skipped.

Great idea. It would certainly make the videos a lot shorter as well.

> Every time I click an YouTube video on my employer account and get an ad it's such a shock

Whenever I forget to open up youtube in brave or firefox ;-(

Re: Roku tells customers it is unable to strike a deal with YouTube

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post #265

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's on the content creator, not YouTube right?

With the current system, yes. YouTube could do something where the content creator specifies the sponsored part (if it's not straight up merchandising and product placement) and paying subscribers could have that skipped. Anyway, I chimed in to say YouTube Premium to me is worth a lot. I watch more YouTube because of it, it's better, better for the kids, less annoying, the whole thing is fantastically better. Every t…

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Re: Roku tells customers it is unable to strike a deal with YouTube

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I've used Roku in various incarnations (box, TV) since it was released and was excited when the official YouTube app was finally available. But lately, it's been painful to watch YouTube due to the constant and disruptive advertising. Part of me is looking forward to the app being pulled from Roku, since it's so much like the cable TV experience I thought I was escaping. I don't feel this way about the other premium…

YouTube premium is the very best subscription I have. Why would I want to see ads all over the place anywhere anyone embedded a video (on twitter or wherever)? When I have to use YouTube signed out or on someone else's device it is just shocking how frequent and bad the YouTube ads are.

$15/month for totally ad-free YouTube and ad-free unlimited YouTube Music for my whole family seems like a complete no-brainer to me.

Re: Roku tells customers it is unable to strike a deal with YouTube

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I've used Roku in various incarnations (box, TV) since it was released and was excited when the official YouTube app was finally available. But lately, it's been painful to watch YouTube due to the constant and disruptive advertising. Part of me is looking forward to the app being pulled from Roku, since it's so much like the cable TV experience I thought I was escaping. I don't feel this way about the other premium…

Why does their advertising feel so disruptive? Is it because it feels like something just broke for a moment? It seems that an ad will often be inserted right at a key moment. Maybe it is that I feel like I have to constantly hold the remote, ready to "skip" the rest of the ads, except now they are getting less and less skippable. Also, lately, they are running two ads instead of one.

It is so annoying I have been watching less and less.

I do not feel the same about regular TV. Perhaps it is because the ads are run at the points the programming is designed for ad insertion.

Re: Roku tells customers it is unable to strike a deal with YouTube

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Huh? Roku is "hardware you purchased". Sure, you could go out and purchase something else to replace it. I'm not sure why you think that means it doesn't impact the hardware you already have.

Roku is more analogous to software than hardware. My phone OS updates at least every few months, and I don't have a problem with that. In fact, I'd wager that most people don't have a problem with that. Roku is as much "hardware you purchased" as calling Android "hardware you purchase." Even that isn't a good analogy, because unlike a phone, you can still use your TV without Roku. When I buy a TV, I'm not "buying" Ro…

Roku is literally a device that you purchase for using media streaming apps. If there's a TV with Roku built-in, that's only one gateway to their platform and I don't think it's a huge chunk of their userbase.

Re: Roku tells customers it is unable to strike a deal with YouTube

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My perception of Google has shifted from the kid in the candy store feeling I used to get about anything Google touched. Now I'm skeptical of every move they make and don't feel like they are operating in my best interest. Maybe I was always naive but the Google I knew 10+ years ago isn't the one I know today and it makes me sad.

The Google founders started the process of stepping down around 10 years ago. Pretty sure this was the turning point and the company just got worse since then: > The explanation that Page posted Tuesday on his Google Plus profile cleared up a mystery hanging over him since he lost his voice a year ago, causing him to miss Google Inc.'s annual shareholders meeting in June and a conference call to discuss the company's…

Medical reasons aside everything I've seen on them stepping away hints that they were unhappy with (although resigned to) the corporate behemoth that Google had become. It could no longer do things the way it did that made it so successful. I think we've seen their fears of that these past 10 years.

Re: Roku tells customers it is unable to strike a deal with YouTube

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Time to get a new TV then. It's been time for awhile but this is gonna be the inciting incident. And definitely not getting a Roku TV as my new one.

There's no need to get a new TV, unless your Roku TV lacks HDMI ports. Mine has plenty. I've been thinking of moving away from Roku anyway though, because they seem underpowered. Most of the apps on mine are a bit laggy, whereas my AppleTV is smooth. I've even noticed jittery playback on high-quality 4k content, even though my tv is ostensibly a 4k tv.

It might depend on which model you have. The Roku Ultra is super quick and has been preferred in our house over our Apple TV.
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