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US says it can prove Huawei has backdoor access to mobile-phone networks

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Post by manicdee »

wolco wrote: post #255
manicdee wrote: post #252

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is the same USA which performs extraordinary renditions (ie: kidnapping a citizen of a foreign nation from within that nation’s borders), political assassinations, and abandoning erstwhile allies because their new friends with oil don’t like the old friends? How is China worse than the USA? Your claim seems to rest entirely on greater reporting of China’s aggressions by the US and their allies.

His claim rests on the reported facts by the US and allies? There are independant agencies outlining so much worse.. like the harvesting of organs on political prisioners. Do you think the US is harvesting organs?

That is whataboutism.

The US routinely massacres innocents in foreign countries then retroactively declares all the victims “terrorists”. China — to my knowledge — doesn’t engage in anywhere near the level of military aggression that the USA does.

When you compare the number of organ harvest victims to the number of “terrorists” slaughtered by incorrectly targeted missiles, who comes out ahead in the ethics game?

Do you think killing people for the sake of imaginary goals is better or worse than killing people to harvest organs?

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Post by dustfinger »

rsync wrote: post #289
dustfinger wrote: post #127

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What client region was the twilio data center? What was the exact text sent? Are you comfortable to disclose the make / model of the receiving cell phone as well as its carrier service?

I just tested with twilio as well. I was able to send this string: "secure communication" from within the twilio API, via pure SMS (no imessage, etc.) to an iphone SE with a US Mobile (verizon MVNO) sim card. Was sent from a US number to a US number. No issues.

I added your entry, thank you.

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Post by dustfinger »

UI_at_80x24 wrote: post #172
dustfinger wrote: post #100

Note: The following might be considered off-topic. On the otherhand, there might be something nefarious in the SMS network. I found something strange that affects SMS in Canada. You can send the lower case text "secure communication", but it will never be recieved by the recipient. I am not sure if this behavior is reproducible outside of Canada. It might be a software defect, or perhaps there is something capturing…

I just tried. Successful delivery. from: Freedom Mobile to: Freedom Mobile Location: Ontario Mobile data: off Wifi: off Side note: So cool to see so many Canadians on here! If requested I can send SMS to USA numbers.

> If requested I can send SMS to USA numbers.

Yes please! Also, if you have US contacts that would be willing to test US-->US and US-->Canada that information would also be valuable and appreciated.

Please include as much of this information as participants are willing to provide:

  - OS+version of mobile device
  - if WiFi / data was on or off
  - Carrier of sender / receiver
  - region
  - exact text sent

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Post by nucleardog »

manicdee wrote: post #252
nucleardog wrote: post #249

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They have more to fear from China. China does not respect the sovereignty of other nations, nor the rule of law. They are not above intimidating, blackmailing, or otherwise exerting their influence on foreign nationals on foreign soil when their views become too politically inconvenient. Those residing and holding citizenship abroad but that have family back in China (which are many) have proven especially vulnenable…

This is the same USA which performs extraordinary renditions (ie: kidnapping a citizen of a foreign nation from within that nation’s borders), political assassinations, and abandoning erstwhile allies because their new friends with oil don’t like the old friends? How is China worse than the USA? Your claim seems to rest entirely on greater reporting of China’s aggressions by the US and their allies.

> While the US's hands are quite dirty here as well,

Acknowledged this already.

The policies the US is trying to enforce with these measures are less bad for most of the Western world than those that China is. That's it.

While the US has taken quite a slide on freedoms over the past couple decades, they're still nowhere near China's level and I find it pretty laughable to even try and put them on the same playing field in that regard.

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Post by Peenemunde »

dustfinger wrote: post #272
bob1122 wrote: post #164

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Tried it, works. Also seems to not deliver SMSs that contain other combinations with 'secure communication' within it. E.g. 'Hahahaha juice secure communication james' or 'Not secure communication'

Yes, if the words "secure communication" in all lower case appear anywhere in the message, then the message won't be delivered. There can even be text appended to the beginning and end of the words [0]. i.e. foosecure communicationbar will also not be received. However; there must be exactly one blank space between the words. Having said that, this is not working for everyone. I am trying to gather data on this to fi…

Message is not delivered between Koodo -> Koodo, secure commmunication (using 3 m) won't be delivered as well.
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