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How to know if where you live is “up and coming”: fried chicken vs. coffee shops

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Re: How to know if where you live is “up and coming”: fried chicken vs. coffee shops

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Post by Cakez0r »

jrock08 wrote: post #182
michaelbuddy wrote: post #167

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No you make it racist. To the clearheaded its just reality.

He's literally using fried chicken as an extremely thinly veiled way of measuring the number of black people in an area. This is a good article on why "fried chicken" when paired with other things can be racist. [1] Since "up and coming" is basically code for gentrifying, it shouldn't be that hard to see why this is actually racist. [1] http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2014/02/heres-wh...

He's literally not. Your article says that fried chicken is racist because people keep assuming that black people eat fried chicken. And here you are assuming that when someone says "fried chicken" they actually mean "black people". You're doing exactly what the article you linked is condemning.

Re: How to know if where you live is “up and coming”: fried chicken vs. coffee shops

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Post by jsprogrammer »

jqm wrote: post #287
jsprogrammer wrote: post #253

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>the original poster gives a reason he thinks poor people don't exercise (because they are working too hard) The original poster did not claim that. The poster claimed that they would be restricted in how much energy could be expended elsewhere due to the amount energy expended acquiring income. >behaviors and attitudes that encourage poverty Such as? I'm not sure lazy and sloppy are really behaviors or attitudes. Th…

"The poster claimed that they would be restricted in how much energy could be expended elsewhere due to the amount energy expended acquiring income." Wait...how exactly is that different from "working too hard to exercise"? Sure, everything is subjective. Everything is a matter of degree and scale and perspective. Still... certain attitudes and behaviors are more likely to result in certain outcomes. This is true irr…

You have not defined "too hard".

AFAIK

As it stands, it appears to be a value judgement and not one of fact.

Re: How to know if where you live is “up and coming”: fried chicken vs. coffee shops

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Post by ascorbic »

jrock08 wrote: post #182
michaelbuddy wrote: post #167

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No you make it racist. To the clearheaded its just reality.

He's literally using fried chicken as an extremely thinly veiled way of measuring the number of black people in an area. This is a good article on why "fried chicken" when paired with other things can be racist. [1] Since "up and coming" is basically code for gentrifying, it shouldn't be that hard to see why this is actually racist. [1] http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2014/02/heres-wh...

Your argument falls down because this is in the UK, where fried chicken doesn't have racial connotations. He's using it to measure the number of working class people.

Re: How to know if where you live is “up and coming”: fried chicken vs. coffee shops

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Post by protomyth »

dragonwriter wrote: post #258
protomyth wrote: post #244

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It comes under the racial steering section

> It comes under the racial steering section The racial steering section does not support the claim that answering questions is prohibited (in fact, it specifically as I quoted identifies that courts have held that proof of discriminatory motive is required in steering cases.)

"9. Many of my clients ask me questions about the neighborhood, such as: “Who lives here? Are there any [fill in ethnic/racial group]?” How should I respond to questions like these?

Let your clients know that you cannot provide information on racial, ethnic or other protected class demographics under the fair housing laws, which prohibit discrimination based on such factors. Consider giving all of your clients a written statement about your commitment to fair housing when you first start working with them. This statement also can let clients know what services you can provide them and what information they’ll need to find out on their own. When you discuss your commitment to fair housing early on, your clients may be less likely to express their possible biases. Many agents give a resource packet to all clients at the first meeting. The packet provides a broad range of information, including online resources to locate up-to-date neighborhood census information, community resources, local media, etc. By providing general information to all of your clients, you make it easier for them to find the perfect home. See Appendix B for some area resources for home buyers to include in your own packet. For your own protection, make sure you document any specific requests from your prospects and clients that you feel may have fair housing implications. Keep a record in your files of both the request and your response."

http://www.kingcounty.gov/~/media/exec/civilrights/documents...

Re: How to know if where you live is “up and coming”: fried chicken vs. coffee shops

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Post by logfromblammo »

In the U.S., a leading indicator of future development in suburban or rural areas is often the self-storage business. They are often built out in the middle of nowhere when land is cheap, and continue operating as other businesses are built nearby.

Many of them are owned by large REITs that are speculating on land values. The business pays the property taxes as the value of the land rises.

Chicken shops flipping to coffee shops may predict urban gentrification, but the self-storage business predicts cornfields turning into Wal*Marts.

Re: How to know if where you live is “up and coming”: fried chicken vs. coffee shops

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Post by jqm »

jsprogrammer wrote: post #292
jqm wrote: post #287

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"The poster claimed that they would be restricted in how much energy could be expended elsewhere due to the amount energy expended acquiring income." Wait...how exactly is that different from "working too hard to exercise"? Sure, everything is subjective. Everything is a matter of degree and scale and perspective. Still... certain attitudes and behaviors are more likely to result in certain outcomes. This is true irr…

You have not defined "too hard". AFAIK As it stands, it appears to be a value judgement and not one of fact.

Is what you are saying a value judgement or is it factual? :)

Re: How to know if where you live is “up and coming”: fried chicken vs. coffee shops

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Post by jsprogrammer »

jqm wrote: post #296
jsprogrammer wrote: post #292

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You have not defined "too hard". AFAIK As it stands, it appears to be a value judgement and not one of fact.

Is what you are saying a value judgement or is it factual? :)

There's an argument that everything is a value judgement.

However, you'd only need to show where you defined "too hard" to contradict my statement.

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Post by curiousjorge »

dang wrote: post #271
curiousjorge wrote: post #251

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You clearly exhibit lack of empathy, a common trait of a psychopath.

> You clearly exhibit lack of empathy, a common trait of a psychopath. We've banned this account for repeatedly breaking the HN guidelines and ignoring our requests not to.

lol fuck you dang

Re: How to know if where you live is “up and coming”: fried chicken vs. coffee shops

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Post by twic »

Turing_Machine wrote: post #276
elcct wrote: post #64

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Pawnshops, payday loan services, barber shops... And pubs closed down, because it is too dangerous for them to operate. Also signs on restaurants "Customer only toilets"

Tattoo parlors. Strip clubs. Hole-in-the-wall liquor stores. Pull-tab joints. Attended laundromats (people who live in bad neighborhoods don't have their own washers and dryers, and ones that are inside apartment buildings tend to get vandalized/broken into).

What's a pull-tab joint?
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