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Spain Orders Blacklist of Palantir from Public and Private Companies

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Re: Spain Orders Blacklist of Palantir from Public and Private Companies

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It’s not spite it’s just logical - US/Israel are a known bad actor. China is also probably bad, but currently there’s no evidence they’re as bad as US/Israel

China is supplying Russia, which is attacking an European country. Thus, from my POV that sentiment is BS. China is an adversary in a panda costume.

And Israel is attacking various countries - okay not in quite in Europe, but pretty close to the southeastern EU member states.

So you have one country which is in a very loose alliance with a country that's attacking a country around the periphery of the EU, and another country that's joined at the hip with a country that's attacking another country around the periphery of the EU, just slightly further away.

It's not exactly a ringing endorsement of the US

Re: Spain Orders Blacklist of Palantir from Public and Private Companies

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Much of Spain is indeed getting very unpleasant in the summer with climate change, but in the north there are still regions that are quite fine at the moment. Where I am, we recently beat the all time temperature record with 35 degrees, but that was a single day. Most days these weeks it isn't going over 25, and I don't think we hit 30 in June except for that single day and maybe one other day. The problem is that th…

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> he gave citizenship to millions of migrants while Spanish has one of the highest unemployment rate of Europe.

This is an interested propaganda

First: This people are not just migrants and some aren't even migrants. They are the grandsons of Spaniards that had to flee the country in the dictatorship and Civil War to avoid being murdered. The parents of this people should have dual-Spanish citizenship yet, unless they voluntarily refused to it.

The idea that the grandsons of Jews from Germany should have some legal path to reclaim German citizenship if they want it, looks 100% reasonable to me. Their families inhabited Germany for generations, much before the mustache disgrace was born. Who was Hitler or Franco to claim "you can't live here because I don't like you"?

And, just for the record, Spain, the country that Nuts calls "antisemite" every two weeks, has granted citizenship also to 72,000 Sephardic descendants since 2015 for a similar reason.

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Second: The migrants aren't stealing the jobs from anybody. They were forced to work illegally in conditions that Spaniards wouldn't accept, but still need to compete with.

Prosecuting people that keeps migrant slave workers sewing for 20 hours a day in a dark basement is of top priority to Spanish workers, because this breaks and poison the job market (lowering wages for everybody); and puts the legal workers that do pay taxes on an unfair disadvantage.

Most Spanish workers able to think are very happy with that move to heal the market; And those that aren't should think twice, because this move massively benefits them in their objective to keep their small family business open.

As long as a migrant didn't commit serious crimes before, this grants them a permit to work legally and pay taxes, but is not the same as citizenship. They can't vote.

Re: Spain Orders Blacklist of Palantir from Public and Private Companies

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Spain is really going in the right direction, I wonder why no one countries inspire from what they are doing

Politicians and governments like to introduce crap like blacklisting when they have a good excuse to (a target the public agrees with) so that later it's easier for them to use against arbitrary targets.

This prevents palantir being used against people, what are you talking about? How will blacklisting military tech affect you?

Re: Spain Orders Blacklist of Palantir from Public and Private Companies

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Someday, the US will be just a bubble where no other country gives their data to. We continue this decent into fascism to the point that nobody likes us.. or values us. Is this their idea of Utopia?

Its what the US wants, and honestly at this point we should just completely cordon off the US from the rest of the world and give it to them.

It's what heritage foundation, elon and all the other billionaires want. This is not what most americans wanted, is it? How much of the population voted for orange man?

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Someone in ICE uses Microsoft Excel to maintain a list of people who they believe should be send to an internment camp. Therefore Microsoft is an accessory to that? Where do you draw the line? Are we arguing there is a level of software capability that is simply too dangerous? Maybe everyone should just stick to "I have my own biases, and I don't like Alex Karp's politics because they don't match my own. I'd rather t…

If Microsoft sells ICE a subscription to Office then yes.

How about selling cakes to gay couples?

Re: Spain Orders Blacklist of Palantir from Public and Private Companies

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I think in general people are a bit distrusting of a tech firm headed by billionaires with deep political ties that sells AI driven surveillance state technology to governments

Whom should we buy surveillance software from then? Vegan art society?

It's like saying we shouldn't buy guns from gun makers and tickle our enemies with rose petals instead.

Feels like Kremlin bots are having a field day here.

Re: Spain Orders Blacklist of Palantir from Public and Private Companies

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So your answer is yes? The companies like GM, Cadillac, etc. they were buildings tanks to defeat the Nazis were themselves fascists, because producing armarments is an inherently fascist endeavor? Even if the military they're equipping is actively fighting against real fascists?

pressed into service? or pressed the government into building more arms, and using them against the citizenry? theres a pretty significant change between when the US was at declared war and when the companies making arms started pressing the US into undeclared war for the sake of selling the government more arms

Ukraine got rid of their nukes and look what happened.

Drop your guard down and you'll get eaten for breakfast.

Re: Spain Orders Blacklist of Palantir from Public and Private Companies

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It’s not spite it’s just logical - US/Israel are a known bad actor. China is also probably bad, but currently there’s no evidence they’re as bad as US/Israel

China is supplying Russia, which is attacking an European country. Thus, from my POV that sentiment is BS. China is an adversary in a panda costume.

China is also supplying Ukraine and the countries that supply Ukraine.

Maybe you meant North Korea?

Re: Spain Orders Blacklist of Palantir from Public and Private Companies

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I mean.. just take a minute and listen to the CEO. The guy is having a hard time time. Clearly out of touch imo. https://youtu.be/0A3sGymV6kY

yeah, he seems to have the same issue a lot of these guys have. i’m convinced we’re going to find out at some point they’re all on some kind of modern meth type drug that entirely breaks their reality. the similarities between so many of their shifts are too striking.

> i’m convinced we’re going to find out at some point they’re all on some kind of modern meth type drug that entirely breaks their reality

It's called being out-of-touch obscenely wealthy coupled with a massive ego.

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