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Spain Orders Blacklist of Palantir from Public and Private Companies

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Re: Spain Orders Blacklist of Palantir from Public and Private Companies

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Most of their employees are foreign and dont even fall on the left right poltical spectrum.

This is a company where 88% of employe political contributions went to Democrats. Even if many employees are apolitical, the allegations of fascism are absurd.

Most employees who donate vote left but but most employees may not necessarily vote.

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I do agree blocking Palantir is a good move but the Spanish government is doing it for the wrong reason. Spain is storing all sort of data on Chinese servers, including their Intelligence, and Judicial wiretaps. https://www.politico.eu/article/spain-huawei-contract-judici...

The Spanish public overwhelmingly trusts China over the US, so from their perspective, this is not necessarily a bad move. Obviously, the best move would be to keep the data in Europe instead.

>Obviously, the best move would be to keep the data in Europe instead.

While 80% of Europe is subservient to the US?

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Dunno, losing it maybe safer from a citizen's POV.

Odd take. 99.99999% of citizens will never travel to China, so it matters not that the Chinese govt holds their data. A local company losing the data screws everyone. Palantir getting the data screws everyone, because while foreign, that data will eventually be fed into global systems like VISA, Mastercard, etc, and affect your travel in numerous countries that will be outsourcing their systems to Palantir.

I'm not sure what "travel" even does here. Possessing citizen's info opens possibilities for influence ops, blackmailing, unfair advantage in business and much more. And non-democratic countries are always better at these games, cause they need not be afraid of the next government leaking, investigating, selling whatever they did.

Meanwhile gov't losing info on one citizen screws said citizen, but losing all of it screws the gov't itself, and generally rebalances power in favor of citizens. Which one may say isn't bad.

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The Spanish government trusting the CCP over Palantir is wild. The CCP's intolerant, cruel and authoritarian nature is a direct threat to humanity in ways that Peter Thiel could barely imagine in his darkest dreams. The lack of perspective on show here is astonishing. They are destroying trust with vital Western allies -- trust is gained in drops and lost in buckets -- and Lurch and his dodgy friends are clearly out…

I take the ccp over thiel any day

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This section is hilariously hostile towards Palantir. "Wired wrote that some people think Palantir "maintains a giant, centralized database of information collected from all of its clients", which is untrue." 'some people' is a classic weasel word[0] used to prop up the writer's opinion. This sentence is even funnier because it initially appears to state that Palantir has a centralized DB of clients data, only to fin…

>'Palantir "remains open to the critique of potentially being an accessory to acts of deportation, imprisonment, and racism through its contracts".' Open to critiques of potentially being an accessory to "racism?" What is this, the Future Crimes unit from Minority Report? No. What that means is, "there's nothing here that prevents these tools from being used in this manner". It's not about what may happen in the futu…

Someone in ICE uses Microsoft Excel to maintain a list of people who they believe should be send to an internment camp. Therefore Microsoft is an accessory to that?

Where do you draw the line? Are we arguing there is a level of software capability that is simply too dangerous?

Maybe everyone should just stick to "I have my own biases, and I don't like Alex Karp's politics because they don't match my own. I'd rather this software was developed by someone from my side of politics - but still have the same capabilities".

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I don't have any insight into what to call it right now, but I thought for several decades after WWII it was still fascist? If anything being a banana republic might not be as as bad as what it used to be

Hell, how can you be a banana republic when you're not even a republic?

(Sorry for the pun, I'll see myself out.)

Re: Spain Orders Blacklist of Palantir from Public and Private Companies

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The Spanish public overwhelmingly trusts China over the US, so from their perspective, this is not necessarily a bad move. Obviously, the best move would be to keep the data in Europe instead.

>Obviously, the best move would be to keep the data in Europe instead. While 80% of Europe is subservient to the US?

Or just keep it in Spain? It's not exactly a developing nation. Can they simply not build a server and find people willing to take care of it?

Ghana can host their own IT infra. Why not Spain?

Re: Spain Orders Blacklist of Palantir from Public and Private Companies

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Spain is really going in the right direction, I wonder why no one countries inspire from what they are doing

I do agree blocking Palantir is a good move but the Spanish government is doing it for the wrong reason. Spain is storing all sort of data on Chinese servers, including their Intelligence, and Judicial wiretaps. https://www.politico.eu/article/spain-huawei-contract-judici...

They deliver part of hardware but the data itself is hosted in Spain and operated by the interior ministry.
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