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Re: Russia opens criminal investigation of Meta over death calls on Facebook

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Post by foverzar »

xdennis wrote: post #123
hef19898 wrote: post #15

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Which is, at the very least, questionable. And risky, because it gives Russia a potential reason to claim "the West" encouraged terrorism against Russia and Russians. At the very least this makes Russian propaganda efforts so much easier...

> because it gives Russia a potential reason to claim You have to stop worrying about that. They're still saying they've not invaded Ukraine. They're bombing pregnant mothers in hospitals and claiming they're nazis. Russia will just make up stuff no matter what.

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Post by Paradigma11 »

hiram112 wrote: post #240
lalaland1125 wrote: post #94

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Do you have any evidence that the biolabs in Ukraine were performing research that was oriented towards being usable as a weapon? Like what exactly is the claim here about that those labs were doing? Or do you just think any biolab should automatically be assumed to be working on bioweapons? (And that we should ban all biolabs worldwide I guess?)

The line coming out of the US gov't no longer even makes sense, IMO. They've claimed, like you, that the labs were just general biolabs you'd find at any university, and anything related to WMD is just Russian "disinformation." But they've also claimed that these labs were old Soviet-era weapons research labs the DOD was helping to close down. So which is it? If they're closing down old weapons labs, why'd it take 17…

"So which is it?" Most likely a complicated mix of many things.

Why would the ukrainians destroy the soviet labs just to build new ones?

It does seem prudent to destroy dangerous substances that might get involved in combat situations. There is also the possibility of false flag operations.

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Post by yucky »

ajross wrote: post #258
justapassenger wrote: post #211

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> Tech companies are making themselves active participants in conflicts involving powerful countries Same can be said about media companies, banks, car manufacturers, luxury brands, fast foods, etc.

And... rightly so? I mean, we know who we want to win here. There's a good side and a bad side. Have we really gone so far down the rabbit hole of "media neutrality" that a unilateral military invasion needs to be protected as... a form of speech, I guess? No, that's wrong. Russia is wrong. Limiting Russia's ability to invade its neighbors isn't being "biased" in a discussion about different perspectives, it's doing…

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Post by [deleted] »

yucky wrote: post #283
ajross wrote: post #258

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And... rightly so? I mean, we know who we want to win here. There's a good side and a bad side. Have we really gone so far down the rabbit hole of "media neutrality" that a unilateral military invasion needs to be protected as... a form of speech, I guess? No, that's wrong. Russia is wrong. Limiting Russia's ability to invade its neighbors isn't being "biased" in a discussion about different perspectives, it's doing…

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Post by haveyoubeen »

ajross wrote: post #258
justapassenger wrote: post #211

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> Tech companies are making themselves active participants in conflicts involving powerful countries Same can be said about media companies, banks, car manufacturers, luxury brands, fast foods, etc.

And... rightly so? I mean, we know who we want to win here. There's a good side and a bad side. Have we really gone so far down the rabbit hole of "media neutrality" that a unilateral military invasion needs to be protected as... a form of speech, I guess? No, that's wrong. Russia is wrong. Limiting Russia's ability to invade its neighbors isn't being "biased" in a discussion about different perspectives, it's doing…

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Post by jacquesm »

yucky wrote: post #283
ajross wrote: post #258

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And... rightly so? I mean, we know who we want to win here. There's a good side and a bad side. Have we really gone so far down the rabbit hole of "media neutrality" that a unilateral military invasion needs to be protected as... a form of speech, I guess? No, that's wrong. Russia is wrong. Limiting Russia's ability to invade its neighbors isn't being "biased" in a discussion about different perspectives, it's doing…

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Could you please stop spouting Russian propaganda at every step? Russia has a far bigger Neo Nazi problem then Ukraine, on top of that it isn't exactly the Ukranian Neo Nazi's that are currently invading another country to slaughter their citizens.

Neo Nazi's are unfortunately all too common, in the context of Ukraine they are merely a very convenient excuse to invade another sovereign country.

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Post by revicon »

bananabiscuit wrote: post #60
daenz wrote: post #21

The next Modern Warfare game is going to be very different than it's FPS predecessors.

I’m honestly hyped for a new golden age of movies and games where Russians are the bad guys. I feel like Russian bad guys always had more character and really made you want to see the hero outmaneuver them. Arabs just didn’t do it for me the last two decades.

I think it stems from the fact that fighting terrorists is asymmetrical warfare. The Russians can go just as hard as the US can, though the US has vastly more military resources and the power of NATO behind it.

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Post by therealjumbo »

lazide wrote: post #253
therealjumbo wrote: post #238

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COINTELPRO was a thing, yes, but now almost all news is manipulated. Then stuff related to those stories was, big difference. >The media has always had to kowtow to some degree to local authority, Yes, that's what I mean, to what degree? That degree is much greater now than it was in the past, except the one doing the manipulation isn't necessarily the government.

Do you have any first hand experience as a journalist in the 60’s to base that on? Do you have any links to facts that might support those assertions? If not, I rest my case?

The incentive to lie and manipulate is greater now than in the past. New information technology (nowadays social media....) increases the benefits of lying, and decreases the costs of doing so effectively. So I would expect there to be more today than 40 years ago.

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Post by 8note »

zozbot234 wrote: post #213
iso1631 wrote: post #203

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Are ordinary Russians invaders?

Do we really want to ask that question? We might not like the answer that some Ukrainians may give. Facebook was saying that "calls for violence on Russians" are okay given the context, full stop, then they clumsily backpedaled on the civilians issue and then only for threats they arbitrarily judge as "credible", which tells you how ridiculous the back-pedaling was. This is not going well for them.

Which country are the Russians in question citizens of?
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