Why is an app needed to display things on a map? Isn't that something a website can do just fine?
Which brings up an interesting, more general topic:
Why do we need apps at all? What is the fundamental difference to websites?
Apple Removes HKmap.live from the App Store
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#282Blizzard and now Apple. I think this is very serious and it should be a wake-up call. As simple citizens we don't have much choices but vote with our wallets and use social networks to attack the most valuable asset of those companies, their reputation.
That’s not how this works. Apple is one of the wealthiest companies in the world, and saying “just don’t spend money there” is a bit reductionist and trivializes the problem of corporations with more power than nation-states. You need to fight fire with fire: governments of the world (especially the US government) need to create laws that restrict and punish this kind of behavior. Otherwise, I sincerely doubt Apple’s…
> You need to fight fire with fire: governments of the world (especially the US government) need to create laws that restrict and punish this kind of behavior. Otherwise, I sincerely doubt Apple’s going to even notice the missing couple hundred thousand dollars of revenue because of principled “voting with your wallet”.
and as we all know, governments are becoming a thing of the past. too slow too bad. I welcome our technotopia overlords
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#283Blizzard and now Apple. I think this is very serious and it should be a wake-up call. As simple citizens we don't have much choices but vote with our wallets and use social networks to attack the most valuable asset of those companies, their reputation.
This isnt about free will, its a clear indication that the US is not the worlds most important economy anymore.
Depending on the year either the EU or the USA are the biggest economy with China being either second or third. So long as 'the west' sticks together (which we haven't for the past few years) there is nothing that can break that hegemony. Whether that's a good thing depends largely on where you live.
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#284Earlier quoted context omitted.
That’s not how this works. Apple is one of the wealthiest companies in the world, and saying “just don’t spend money there” is a bit reductionist and trivializes the problem of corporations with more power than nation-states. You need to fight fire with fire: governments of the world (especially the US government) need to create laws that restrict and punish this kind of behavior. Otherwise, I sincerely doubt Apple’s…
Homegrown sentiment against Apple will very quickly turn the company in the right direction. None of these large companies can afford to completely neglect their home territories.
Most people don’t actually care about this issue, though. Whether or not they should is a different debate, but at the end of the day, people want a solid laptop that works, and even if people did care, I don’t blame them for valuing more short-term things like “I need a MacBook for my job” vs. more long-term, abstract things like “we shouldn’t import autocratic Chinese censorship”.
We can have a world where companies produce good products and act in accordance with democratic, liberal ideology.
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#285Blizzard and now Apple. I think this is very serious and it should be a wake-up call. As simple citizens we don't have much choices but vote with our wallets and use social networks to attack the most valuable asset of those companies, their reputation.
I'm done with Apple. From now on Huawei is my phone of choice. #freehongkong /s
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#286Waze also tracks police locations, and people use that information to decide whether to break the law.
Re: Apple Removes HKmap.live from the App Store
#287Blizzard and now Apple. I think this is very serious and it should be a wake-up call. As simple citizens we don't have much choices but vote with our wallets and use social networks to attack the most valuable asset of those companies, their reputation.
That’s not how this works. Apple is one of the wealthiest companies in the world, and saying “just don’t spend money there” is a bit reductionist and trivializes the problem of corporations with more power than nation-states. You need to fight fire with fire: governments of the world (especially the US government) need to create laws that restrict and punish this kind of behavior. Otherwise, I sincerely doubt Apple’s…
But getting corporations to have more power than nations is the raison d'être of globalisation. Winding it back won't be easy.
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#288Why is an app needed to display things on a map? Isn't that something a website can do just fine? Which brings up an interesting, more general topic: Why do we need apps at all? What is the fundamental difference to websites?
Apps provide better user experience through higher performance.
I'm this case though website is sufficient: https://hkmap.live/
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#289Earlier quoted context omitted.
I’ve heard from a few famous economists that attributed current low inflation to China. It’s probably a complicated and super risky move considering the impact to lower class people
Allowing the rise of authoritarianism would seem like a complicated and super risky move considering the impact to lower class people
I agree with your point in its final form. Unfortunately it doesn’t work at the moment since you at least need to convince some tens of millions Chinese people who have been lifted from poverty under CCP during past 30 years, or you have to wait until Chinese government make things much worse. Before that, some sanction move from western might be viewed as political coercion from mainland Chinese people’s perspective and we probably could guess what it’ll lead to (wars).
I think it’s good enough now to exert influence from HK &Taiwan or China’s neighbors, but I do think any other move is dangerous
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#290It helps to know a little bit about what's been going on in Hong Kong, before you all decide to line up and take your daily dump on China. It all started a few months ago when someone committed a crime in Taiwan and fled to Hong Kong. To prevent HK from becoming a safe haven for criminals, the Chief Executive of HK proposed a new law to facilitate extradition of these crime suspects from HK to various jurisdictions i…
Thank you for the context, but I find it hard to believe that the HK Chief Executive was not influenced by or seeking favor with China when making the law. Also, this seems to ignore the question of Taiwan's sovereign status and assume they are part of China.
Speaking more factually, China has used unrelated charges to arrest and imprison political dissidents for years now. This is a known phenomenon, and likely the reason behind the protestor's concerns about extradition. The promise not to use the law for political crimes is worthless knowing that history.