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#256

Honestly, I think we as in the United States have to think harder whether it is worth sacrificing our beliefs in freedom to gain a few $$$ (edit: A lot of $$$$$) from countries that don't provide their citizens with basic rights.

I’ve heard from a few famous economists that attributed current low inflation to China. It’s probably a complicated and super risky move considering the impact to lower class people

Re: Apple Removes HKmap.live from the App Store

#257

It's time that North Americans take a stand and use economic power for something other than furthering that goal. There are so many places where a simple refusal to kowtow/censor or technical attack on censorship infrastructure could help so many that don't have the luxury of living in our world. If we're not going to use all this economic power for good, what's the point?

> It's time that North Americans take a stand and use economic power for something other than furthering that goal.

Which goal is that?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think you're being a bit cavalier with the distinction between complying with a law and enforcing it. If complying with a law is morally equivalent with enforcing it, you're tarring a lot of Jews in Nazi Germany with a very nasty smelling brush. I really don't get this. Apple has done far more than any other company in the whole industry to fight for privacy rights. They have gone right up against the legal limits…

> It puts industrial strength end to end encryption in the hands of millions of Chinese. But China doesn't allow stuff like that, surely there is a backdoor.

There is. https://www.wired.com/2015/09/apple-fighting-privacy-imessag...

Re: Apple Removes HKmap.live from the App Store

#259

It's time that North Americans take a stand and use economic power for something other than furthering that goal. There are so many places where a simple refusal to kowtow/censor or technical attack on censorship infrastructure could help so many that don't have the luxury of living in our world. If we're not going to use all this economic power for good, what's the point?

> It's time that North Americans take a stand and use economic power for something other than furthering that goal. Which goal is that?

being an economic power

Re: Apple Removes HKmap.live from the App Store

#260

Honestly, I think we as in the United States have to think harder whether it is worth sacrificing our beliefs in freedom to gain a few $$$ (edit: A lot of $$$$$) from countries that don't provide their citizens with basic rights.

I’ve heard from a few famous economists that attributed current low inflation to China. It’s probably a complicated and super risky move considering the impact to lower class people

Allowing the rise of authoritarianism would seem like a complicated and super risky move considering the impact to lower class people
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