You've already paid for it. Just download it from somewhere else with a clean conscience.
You paid for it, but you never bought it. So you would still not have a clean conscience.
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#272We need some kind of modern equivalent to the old proposed Digital Media Consumer's Rights Act but which protects people's rights to digital media they buy. These should never be sold and then taken away with no compensation like this. We need a law that forces companies to treat digital files the same as a physical purchase. They can't take it away and have to allow people to resell and loan out as well. And in case…
> and then later they can ban you which deprives you of being able to use what you bought, that should come with requirements that the company must provide full compensation of the purchase price.
Wouldn't this incentivize people to buy the game, play it and once they are done with it get banned to get a full refund?
Maybe not a major problem since almost no centralised multiplayer games are one-time purchases.
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#273This would be perfectly fine if they provided a refund, adjusted for inflation. I'm quite surprised that they haven't, it seems so obviously necessary to me.
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#274You've already paid for it. Just download it from somewhere else with a clean conscience.
You paid for it, but you never bought it. So you would still not have a clean conscience.
If you paid for it, then not a single person in the world can ever accuse you of "stealing" from creators, or of failing to support them.
They named the price, and the price was paid. The licensing and rent seeking shenanigans of corporations and their lawyers are utterly irrelevant.
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#275Earlier quoted context omitted.
What's funny is that Sony has done this before![0] I've had a personal boycott against Sony products due to this. "The feature was controversially removed by Sony since system firmware update 3.21, released on April 1, 2010.[2] A class action lawsuit was filed against Sony on behalf of users, but was dismissed with prejudice in 2011 by a federal judge. The judge stated: "As a legal matter, ... plaintiffs have failed…
Likewise, I've avoided all Sony products since the rootkit scandal: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_BMG_copy_protection_rootk...
I don't know why they didn't imprison some executives over that.
It's worse than simply depriving consumers of their rights/games/music, but actively and knowingly installing malware on their computers.
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#276It should be illegal to have others purchase what you as a company only licensed and therefore aren’t legally allowed to sell.
Studio Canal directly got paid for each individual purchase. It isn't all on Sony, Studio Canal sold a product then took it away.
Not wishing to let them off the hook, but consumers did not enter into a contract with Studio Canal, so it's somewhat irrelevant to the actual issue. Sony willingly entered into a contract with Studio Canal and then "sold" items to consumers that they could reasonably foresee would be time limited without making that clear to the purchasers.
I'd like to see Sony executives put in prison for fraud for this.
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#277Earlier quoted context omitted.
> You only need legislation like this to hold in one major market to make a big difference. Could you explain this? I understand that for things like emissions regulations on cars, where it’s very expensive to invest R&D and production capacity into different SKUs for different markets. I can’t see why it would help in other markets in this case though (beyond potentially inspiring similar regulations elsewhere).
The most relevant example of this for the games industry is probably Steam’s refund policy. They allow you to refund a game if you bought it less than 2 weeks ago and have less than 2 hours playtime recorded. This is their policy for all users, but was a direct result of an Australian consumer watchdog lawsuit [0]. [0] https://www.accc.gov.au/media-release/valve-to-pay-3-million...
Counter-example to this would be 3rd-party app stores on iOS, which are only enabled in the EU, Japan and more recently in Brazil (maybe I'm missing some).
Legislation in one market didn't impact the state of things in the others, and some countries get screwed over.
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#278Earlier quoted context omitted.
Considering the kind of people that get voted into Parliament, I consider that a very good thing. I only consider true democracies those countries where citizens can force new legislation by national referendum, bypassing parliament. There are very very few countries that allow it, and even fewer where the requirements are low enough to actually allow it to happen. Anyway, back to the subject. If Stop Killing Games w…
I think we know from using Athens of Ancient Greece as an example that true democracies of this kind are not a good idea at scale. Enough of the general public can be so easily swayed on a clearly catastrophic idea.
Responsibility comes with practice. Switzerland is doing okay.
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#279Piracy remains the best way to consume films at home. If you don't have it on your hard drive in an open format, you don't own it.
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#280isn't it simply destruction of property?