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Sony Deletes 551 Movies PlayStation Owners Paid For

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Re: Sony Deletes 551 Movies PlayStation Owners Paid For

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Post by mmh0000 »

eska wrote: post #6

It should be illegal to have others purchase what you as a company only licensed and therefore aren’t legally allowed to sell.

What's funny is that Sony has done this before![0] I've had a personal boycott against Sony products due to this.

  "The feature was controversially removed by Sony since system firmware update 3.21, released on April 1, 2010.[2] A class action lawsuit was filed against Sony on behalf of users, but was dismissed with prejudice in 2011 by a federal judge. The judge stated: "As a legal matter, ... plaintiffs have failed to allege facts or articulate a theory on which Sony may be held liable."[3] However, this decision was overturned in a 2014 appellate court decision[4] finding that plaintiffs had indeed made clear and sufficiently substantial claims. Ultimately, in 2016, Sony settled with users who had installed Linux or had purchased a PlayStation 3 based upon the availability of OtherOS."
[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OtherOS

Re: Sony Deletes 551 Movies PlayStation Owners Paid For

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Post by giancarlostoro »

zamadatix wrote: post #12
giancarlostoro wrote: post #3

They should at least make an effort to let you sync them into MoviesAnywhere which is supposed to solve the "I have this on iTunes, but not Android TV" problem by unlocking it across platforms if you sync your accounts. They should really let you permanently keep movies on defunct platforms as part of your standard MoviesAnywhere movie collection.

Movies Anywhere works by aggregating the active digital access licenses you have participating partner services. The problem here is Sony won't be able to give any active digital access licenses for these movies to users after September 1st, let alone one which allows them to transfer that through Movies Anywhere. It's typical "you own nothing" logic to the point the companies selling you that also don't even own it.

Sure, but its also run and operated by the rights holders, which they never even needed to do.

Re: Sony Deletes 551 Movies PlayStation Owners Paid For

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Post by bilekas »

It used to be that streaming services were an excellent option even over torrenting because of the ease of access and use.

Now we're not even getting to retain what we buy, this is not a streaming service, these were sold to users individually.

We've gone full circle where I honestly believe pirating is a far better offering.

The root of the problem is these ridiculous content licensing agreements, it should be very very obvious to the customer when they're buying that "Hey, you will own this until X date when our content licensing agreement is finished"

Not hidden by design in some dense ToS.

Re: Sony Deletes 551 Movies PlayStation Owners Paid For

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Post by bilekas »

404mm wrote: post #14
eska wrote: post #6

It should be illegal to have others purchase what you as a company only licensed and therefore aren’t legally allowed to sell.

I bet there’s a class action coming. And Sony made it easy for them too by using this verbiage: “previously purchased content”

Because they were purchases, not rentals. Under no circumstances would a customer reasonably assume that their purchase would be revoked for reasons completely outside of their control.

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Post by garciansmith »

mmh0000 wrote: post #21
eska wrote: post #6

It should be illegal to have others purchase what you as a company only licensed and therefore aren’t legally allowed to sell.

What's funny is that Sony has done this before![0] I've had a personal boycott against Sony products due to this. "The feature was controversially removed by Sony since system firmware update 3.21, released on April 1, 2010.[2] A class action lawsuit was filed against Sony on behalf of users, but was dismissed with prejudice in 2011 by a federal judge. The judge stated: "As a legal matter, ... plaintiffs have failed…

Yep. I had tons of Sony games across the first three Playstation consoles. I was a grad student with a PS3 at the time and I actually used Yellow Dog Linux on it as a computer to write papers when my laptop broke. Then the update came and I chose to ignore it, but that meant I couldn't play online games. Soon new games required a firmware update (still remember putting in the Dark Souls disc and being stunned I wasn't allowed to play it!).

And with games it's just getting worse (Sony announced they won't make discs starting 2028; the Switch 2 takes carts but very, very few games release on a cart). If you care about control over the games you purchased, if you care about going back and playing older games, then the only choice is to use platforms that are DRM free. (Or, well, non-legal means.)

Re: Sony Deletes 551 Movies PlayStation Owners Paid For

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Post by pgwalsh »

Not the first time and not going to be the last. Unless you can download it to hardware you completely own and can make a backup, it's not really yours. Online purchases I can get on with, like Bandcamp are pretty good. I bought the new Globular album on CD and it took 10 days to get to me from the UK. I also had access to high quality downloads. That works, these other models do not.

Re: Sony Deletes 551 Movies PlayStation Owners Paid For

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Post by mr_toad »

ge96 wrote: post #17

No refund? I have a similar grief with YouTube movies although in that one, they don't play UHD. Some do like Valerian plays at least in 1080P, most movies are capped to 480P unless you have an "approved device" eg. something probably riddled with ads.

1080p or higher is pretty common on the high seas, even for titles like cartoons, which in my opinion is overkill.

Re: Sony Deletes 551 Movies PlayStation Owners Paid For

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Post by [deleted] »

piltdownman wrote: post #10
eska wrote: post #6

It should be illegal to have others purchase what you as a company only licensed and therefore aren’t legally allowed to sell.

They make it up as they go along. Their 2005 Audio-CD EULA includes provisions purporting to require the immediate deletion of all copies if a user files for personal bankruptcy https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2005/12/summary-claims-against...

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