tech will do anything to normalize theft and call it innovation
that's been the case for decades.
everyone steals, you are a loser if you do it slow. just open the front door and take their tv.
Hey Nico, you didn't vibe code your data room but stole it from Papermark
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Re: Hey Nico, you didn't vibe code your data room but stole it from Papermark
#272Can someone give a bit more of context on this thread? I have no idea who Nico is nor what Papermark is or does. As an aside thought not related to the thread: Is it my perception or people are getting more used to not only vibe code things from existing solutions/projects but also "steal" open source code and do whatever the heck they want without complying morally/ethically/legally to the whole premise of open sour…
No morals, no ethics. The other day I skimmed some of the countless vibe coding videos on YT and the vast, vast majority surfacing through a naive search are basically get rich quick crap. Identify a one-feature app that (supposedly) makes money and vibe it up. Done is your "I vibe coded a 10M MAU app in 40 minutes" vid. From crypto to NFT to vibez. Rotten to the core, the difference is that this time around LLM are…
Ahh yes, the AI influencers...
>the people who made fortunes during a gold rush weren't the miners, but the ones selling the shovels
Re: Hey Nico, you didn't vibe code your data room but stole it from Papermark
#273Earlier quoted context omitted.
They are worth 3 billion after two years so it seems like they are doing all right with their strategy although I'm old now and don't want to do that
Lmao tech money is fake. Look at how much AI companies are throwing around. Musk is personally worth 1T now supposedly. It's all virtual valuations. The stock market is poison but most people on here won't admit to that because they have their own interests in it. What a joke our species is lmao. We're still grabbing big sticks to hit each other with and worrying about our neighbors coming to take our rocks because w…
> Musk is personally worth 1T now supposedly.
Not after all the SpaceX "settling": https://www.forbes.com/sites/mattdurot/2026/06/24/elon-musk-...
Re: Hey Nico, you didn't vibe code your data room but stole it from Papermark
#274Earlier quoted context omitted.
Unreal. I had to go back to the original Tweet to confirm that screenshot wasn’t faked. The comment clearly says “Mirror’s the reference design’s” I don’t know how they could try to spin that as anything other than having an LLM launder someone’s code as a “reference design” Even if they try to argue that the “reference design” was Figma, the identical copy means they had to have copied Papermark into the reference d…
Problem is law hasn't caught up with how easy this previously GOOJF practice became with LLMs: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clean-room_design
You might be able to argue that using an AI trained on open source or source available code is not a clean room implementation. IANAL.
Re: Hey Nico, you didn't vibe code your data room but stole it from Papermark
#275Earlier quoted context omitted.
I did an interview a couple years ago when Corgi was first hiring engineers. Nico and I ... did not click and it was probably the least smooth interview I've ever had despite it just being a phone screen. I wouldn't be that surprised if Nico genuinely thinks "we didn't copy the code" is a reasonable defense. It would be a clear cut rule, and extreme "shape rotator" types often have trouble with the fuzziness of thing…
I never made it to the interview phase because on the phone screen they mentioned they all work 7 days a week in office. nope nope nope nope.
Why do you need 7 days a week from your engineers when AI easily replaces engineers?
Re: Hey Nico, you didn't vibe code your data room but stole it from Papermark
#276One other Twitter comments reveals that they probably just asked an AI to copy Papermark. Evidenced by AI comments saying the page was aligned to the "reference" https://xcancel.com/ffumarola/status/2070479755892371713#m
Funny enough, I just published this blog post yesterday:
The Discoverable Evidence of AI-Assisted Software Porting
https://williamcotton.com/articles/the-discoverable-evidence...
Re: Hey Nico, you didn't vibe code your data room but stole it from Papermark
#277One other Twitter comments reveals that they probably just asked an AI to copy Papermark. Evidenced by AI comments saying the page was aligned to the "reference" https://xcancel.com/ffumarola/status/2070479755892371713#m
Unreal. I had to go back to the original Tweet to confirm that screenshot wasn’t faked. The comment clearly says “Mirror’s the reference design’s” I don’t know how they could try to spin that as anything other than having an LLM launder someone’s code as a “reference design” Even if they try to argue that the “reference design” was Figma, the identical copy means they had to have copied Papermark into the reference d…
> The fact that they’re refusing to back down and admit they made a mistake is not a good sign for the company.
I wish this were true, but the current political and corporate climate is that nearly anything is justifiable as long as you win, where winning is money or power. Fraud, corruption, extortion, etc.
> I would not want to be one of their clients when it came to trying to dispute something.
I find most b2b transactions are hostile, and the purpose of sales or customer success is to smooth over the hostility. Tremendously more true in the B2C space, and only accelerated by the aforementioned political and corporate climate.
In other words, as long as their staff is charismatic / crafty enough, this “scandal” will slough right off.
Re: Hey Nico, you didn't vibe code your data room but stole it from Papermark
#278Earlier quoted context omitted.
X is not even in the top 10 active user count. It ranked just above Quora and below Reddit. It's just not a super popular platform. X fans constantly have to denigrate everyone else as a "loud minority". Clearly, "the community" is not all on X. If it were, why would we be having conversations here on Hacker News? Anyways, the real answer you'll still see some X links here is that 1. A not insignificant amount of peo…
In general the art community - not just limited to pornographers - seems to have stuck by X despite all the AI stuff. When I see people posting art it's almost always an X link, even for artists who have accounts on bsky or instagram or whatever.
I believe you, but our personal experiences are simply the opposite here. I do see X links occasionally but Instagram, BlueSky, and even Tumblr seem dominant. (Often with some presence on at least one of Patreon, Substack, Cara, or Kofi).
Re: Hey Nico, you didn't vibe code your data room but stole it from Papermark
#279There appears to have been a cease and desist issued by Corgi to Papermark: https://x.com/danielmerja/status/2070264877017350492?s=46
They want the tweet alleging copy to be deleted.
Re: Hey Nico, you didn't vibe code your data room but stole it from Papermark
#280Earlier quoted context omitted.
A very clear example of this is the 'Sovereign Citizen', who have bizarre beliefs around how to interact with courts. As far as I understand it, there are some 'cheat codes' people believe (incorrectly) are effective in literally getting you out of jail free. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sovereign_citizen_movement > Another common belief among sovereign citizens is that they can opt out of the purported contract, ma…
> why would law enforcement and courts go along with it? They don't want to deal with it. If someone has one of those SovCit license plates, you know pulling them over is guaranteed to result in frustrating verbal sparring match, which may result in the cop giving up (which is then shared as evidence for the SovCit movement's effectiveness!), or may escalate to a physical altercation. Whether or not the SovCit practi…
> Whether or not the SovCit practitioners understand that's what's happening is anyone's guess.
Probably more of them don't understand. I am very unfortunate to have one in my extended family, and they have fully lost their grip on reality and basic cause-and-effect. They skate by most of the time, which reinforces their beliefs, and then once the pile gets large enough, the whole thing collapses on them, and then cycle starts over.