I never made it to the interview phase because on the phone screen they mentioned they all work 7 days a week in office. nope nope nope nope.
We should thank companies for warning us during the interview process that they are so separated from reality (especially in the AI era) If AI can’t make them recognize a work life balance has value then it’s easy to see they don’t believe the “force multiplier” BS they are peddling
They are worth 3 billion after two years so it seems like they are doing all right with their strategy although I'm old now and don't want to do that
Their response: > The team that made dataroom has stated that they did not use any of papermark’s code and that dataroom was made from scratch with inspiration from existing document sharing softwares, and that this post’s allegations of us stealing code are false. [...] The screenshots clearly show they copied whole pages verbatim, both design and texts. The founder, Nico Laqua, basically responding with "we didn't…
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We should thank companies for warning us during the interview process that they are so separated from reality (especially in the AI era) If AI can’t make them recognize a work life balance has value then it’s easy to see they don’t believe the “force multiplier” BS they are peddling
They are worth 3 billion after two years so it seems like they are doing all right with their strategy although I'm old now and don't want to do that
They’re not really, it’s just the YC hype cycle. The business is selling insurance to other YC startups with some AI flair. They’re not even the first YC startup to do this, a previous YC insurance startup was acquired a few years ago for ~$1bn. So, they’re worth 3x the exit of the exact same company… because of what, AI? The fact that they’re cloning other software to release SaaS products is extremely bearish. Why are they wasting their time on this? A wildly successful $3bn startup would not spend their precious resources by launching a $10/m document sending SaaS. They’ll be doing down rounds soon enough. Could you imagine Paul Graham encouraging this?
Their response: > The team that made dataroom has stated that they did not use any of papermark’s code and that dataroom was made from scratch with inspiration from existing document sharing softwares, and that this post’s allegations of us stealing code are false. [...] The screenshots clearly show they copied whole pages verbatim, both design and texts. The founder, Nico Laqua, basically responding with "we didn't…
>they copied whole pages verbatim Parts of pages. Look at the screenshots. The wording is different between the pages.
yes and besides the whole thing that is happening lets not suddenly pretend css and html are code either. There might be bad things going on but we need to maintain our standards!
License in question: https://github.com/papermark/papermark?tab=License-1-ov-file It is AGPL, basically means: You have to share the source code even when the user interacts over the network with the software. The project which uses that code, must also be AGPL, There are ways to separate it and go around it, for example, using an AGPL auth server shouldn't affect the code where your business logic lives I am sure th…
they probably need to sue to enforce this, I think this is actually going to be a larger issue than just corgi. copyright with these models really is just a mess
Folks... read the actual tweet. They literally didn't vibe code it - they copy-pasted another project.
Yeah, the title that the OP chose is so sufficiently misleading that I think this one will need to be get changed by the mods. Seitz isn't opining on the ethics of vibe coding in his tweet, he's pointing out that Corgi literally just stole Papermark's AGPL codebase and passed it off as vibe coding.
They may have been vibe coding and not realised it was an exact copy. AI sometimes makes verbatim copies of things in its training set.
Can someone give a bit more of context on this thread? I have no idea who Nico is nor what Papermark is or does.
As an aside thought not related to the thread: Is it my perception or people are getting more used to not only vibe code things from existing solutions/projects but also "steal" open source code and do whatever the heck they want without complying morally/ethically/legally to the whole premise of open source?
I have the feeling that more than ever open source violations are flourishing everywhere without any major legal consequences.